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11-12-2008, 12:47 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Arizona | | | GGG A/B/Y Amp Switcher Box project (circuit diagrams!)
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So, I really wanted a project to let me try circuit board building and I wanted something to utilize a dual amp situation to give me clean and dirty amps. You fine folks linked THIS in a couple threads I've seen. I however have a couple questions related to building this one.
It calls for a TL072 op-amp IC that I've seen discussed before. I am trying to not just dive headlong into this and went researching different parts. THIS discussed this IC and gave sup-par reports for audio fidelity in high-input impedance situations. Looking at GGG's circuit diagram, its impedance would be 1 meg. However, running through their official data sheets, the audio fidelity is great. Someone want to explain how this works? Or maybe just reassure me i dont need to worry.... lol
Also, where do you guys suggest buying these in small quantities if I cant find them locally? (I haven't checked locally yet, just hypothetical) | 
11-18-2008, 12:29 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Arizona | | | Bumping this with a slightly different agenda. I wanted to ask DIYstompboxes my answer but their manual account activation is ridiculous - been waiting about 5 days just to post a question.
The build calls for 42TM018 transformers. Reading their tech specs, they give a frequency bottom level of 300 Hz. Seeing as how bass frequencies are mostly underneath that level, that had me very concerned. On the other hand, I've seen fellow TBs post good results about this. I am tempted to just get everything I need and assume I am missing something... but I'd like to understand what I am building.
Any help here? | 
11-18-2008, 12:40 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: British Columbia, Canada | | | I haven't checked but I think that Small Bear Electronics (you can find them online) will do small quantities. As for the technical questions i don't know, sorry. | 
11-18-2008, 12:57 AM
|  | Registered User Lead Designer: Redline Electronics | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Central Illinois | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Kooldac So, I really wanted a project to let me try circuit board building and I wanted something to utilize a dual amp situation to give me clean and dirty amps. You fine folks linked THIS in a couple threads I've seen. I however have a couple questions related to building this one. | I'll see what I can do Quote: |
It calls for a TL072 op-amp IC that I've seen discussed before. I am trying to not just dive headlong into this and went researching different parts. THIS discussed this IC and gave sup-par reports for audio fidelity in high-input impedance situations. Looking at GGG's circuit diagram, its impedance would be 1 meg. However, running through their official data sheets, the audio fidelity is great. Someone want to explain how this works? Or maybe just reassure me i dont need to worry.... lol
| Hm, I'm going to venture on no need to worry. I use the TL072 with great results.
Some to consider is that the input impedance of any op amp tends to infinity(>1Meg) so the diagram is fine. What I think the website is giving you is the best operating circumstances. Honestly, I don't think you will need to worry about IMHO and IME. Quote: |
Also, where do you guys suggest buying these in small quantities if I cant find them locally? (I haven't checked locally yet, just hypothetical)
| Small Bear works, but Digikey is really nice to work with and they allow small quantities.
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11-18-2008, 05:00 AM
|  | Jack Grundle and Chad Choad Builder for FUZZROCIOUS PEDALS | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Mount Laurel, NJ | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Kooldac Also, where do you guys suggest buying these in small quantities if I cant find them locally? (I haven't checked locally yet, just hypothetical) | Check 'all' of the sites to see who'll get you best deal...Small Bear, All Electronics, Mouser, Effects Connection, Pedal Parts...
W/ most of these, the shipping is $3+, so you have to make it worth your while to order online. Find a couple of other things to order (soldering parts, diodes, etc...). | 
11-18-2008, 08:56 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Arizona | | | Thanks for the responses. Is there anyone fairly certain about the transformer frequency issue? That is the last thing holding me back from going on with this. | 
11-18-2008, 09:00 AM
|  | OVNIFX EXAR pedals rep for North & Central America | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR | | | TL072's are fine for most audio purposes. Yes there are "better" by some subjective standards, but a person is in golden-ear territory by that point.
Also you mis-read one of the points made by that page about the TL072- he doesn't say the audio quality is sub-par in hi-z applications, he says that it inherently has a hi z in, and unless that hi z in is particularly important to you, there are better choices for lower THD. In bass instrument applications, especially where a passive bass may be used, you do want a very high z in, and THD is less of a critical factor than in some other audiophile applications. | 
11-18-2008, 09:05 AM
|  | OVNIFX EXAR pedals rep for North & Central America | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR | | | I don't know about those transformers, but if you dig through Mouser/Jameco you may be able to find different xformers with the same specs except a lower frequency range:
Interstage audio transformers
Primary impedance 10k ohms
Secondary impedance 10k ohms
Primary resistance 550 ohms
Secondary resistance 500 ohms | 
11-18-2008, 04:54 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Arizona | | | I found no similar transformers with lower frequency range.
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