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Old 10-19-2010, 02:44 PM
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I use a Stingray bass and a Hartke LH500 head and HX410 Cab. I have a pedal board with 5 pedals on it and get a significant amount of noise when running my bass through the board into the head. I'm not a fan of the effects loop for my effects. I need a good gate/noise reducer to put between my board and the head to cut out all (or at least most) of the noise. Could be either a pedal or rack-mountable, but I guess pedal would be preferred. Looking for something under $150. Anyone know anything good?
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Old 10-19-2010, 03:02 PM
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boss noise supressor and mxr smart gate
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Old 10-19-2010, 03:06 PM
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No such thing. They all suck. The only good solution is to figure out where the noise is coming from, and eliminate it. Sometimes the noise is caused by bad or incorrect wiring. Sometimes it's a piece of gear that is just plain noisy, end of story. Sometimes it's from one piece of gear being incompatible with another. Sometimes it is from unwise EQ settings.

You will have to experiment, use the process of elimination, to figure out where the noise is coming from--and eliminate it.
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Old 10-19-2010, 03:24 PM
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The only good solution is to figure out where the noise is coming from, and eliminate it. Sometimes it's a piece of gear that is just plain noisy
Well I went through systematically and ran through each of my pedals (bass -> pedal -> amp) and found that generally each one added a little bit of noise but it's when it's all combined that the noise is really noticeable. The amp itself makes some noise but by itself that's not too bad. I also ran things through different instruments and different amps and it's always the case that adding the pedal board adds a tremendous amount of noise.
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If you do everything that Bongo suggests and the noise is the same, I wholeheartedly suggest getting a used ISP Decimator.
Cancelled out hiss from my Ric's single coils and hollowbody's hum with muffs.
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Old 10-19-2010, 03:27 PM
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I knew what Bongo was going to say before I even read his post and I'm inclined to agree with him assuming you are getting hiss/hum and not feedback (I love feedback). Bongo did forget to mention that low quality power supplies are old/poor building wiring can cause noise issues.

IME the only thing gates are good for are preventing bleed through on drum mics.

The thing is with the way gates and noise suppressors work the noise is still there when you are playing (and most likely can't hear it anyway) and they only clamp down when you aren't playing which is like more of a bandaid (frankly a waste of money and board space) situation than anything else to me.
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Old 10-19-2010, 03:35 PM
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The thing is with the way gates and noise suppressors work the noise is still there when you are playing (and most likely can't hear it anyway) and they only clamp down when you aren't playing which is like more of a bandaid
I understand that about gates but that's sort of what I'm looking for. What made me really consider getting one was when I was playing with my envelope filter pedal. Had it at a quick downward filter setting (like a synth bass sound) and having the hiss come through after every hit sounded horrible to me.
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Old 10-19-2010, 04:24 PM
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I use a hush... It does a good job of getting any noise out of the signal. Some people don't like them, but thats fine with me
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What's the difference between the ISP Decimator and the ISP G-String?
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Old 12-01-2010, 06:50 PM
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Google...

G String: http://www.isptechnologies.com/index...d=45&Itemid=64

Decimator: http://www.isptechnologies.com/index...d=46&Itemid=63

G String has it's own loop, like the Boss NS-2. Decimator just sits in line. Decimator worked just fine for me!
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The gate in the line6 m9 is pretty great. It covers up all the noise in my signal pretty well!

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