got any good loopers in mind that could complement the line 6 x3L?

[r0ckb0tt0m]

from what i gather, the x3L doesn't come with a looper/phraser.

does anyone have any good loopers in mind that could complement the line 6 x3L?

[Nyarlathotep]

Since the x3 is stereo, you need something thats stereo.

The DigiTech looper sums to mono

RC-20XL is mono

RC-50 is huge

The looper, JM-4 iirc, from Line 6 would be perfect as long as you dont mind paying for more modelling lol

I did a search on this a while ago.....

[r0ckb0tt0m]

Originally Posted by DanielTulip

Since the x3 is stereo, you need something thats stereo.

The DigiTech looper sums to mono

RC-20XL is mono

RC-50 is huge

The looper, JM-4 iirc, from Line 6 would be perfect as long as you dont mind paying for more modelling lol

I did a search on this a while ago.....

thanks. i thought the rc50 is a looper of epic proportions. it is massive. (and did i mention that it's more expensive?).

well, i took a peek of the line 6 jm4 and IT IS AWESOME. and finally, a "true" SD card slot (whew! after a long while, somebody finally picked up on this. and, i mean, who else is using CF cards nowadays anyway).

so i'm definitely gonna hook myself up to one of these. i don't really care paying for more modeling; i just wanna get a good clean (stereo) looper no matter what other bonuses are in it.

THANKS A MANY!!!

[Bryan R. Tyler]

Originally Posted by DanielTulip

Since the x3 is stereo, you need something thats stereo.

Well, you certainly don't NEED the looper to be stereo- if you're running into a single amp anyways, the stereo function of the X3 is negated.

I will say that stereo effects into a stereo looper (with a stereo amp rig of course) sounds pretty damn awesome. I messed around with that for a while, and having your loops pan and your effects ping pong or running different effects into each side really fills out the sound when playing solo.

[r0ckb0tt0m]

Originally Posted by Bryan R. Tyler

Well, you certainly don't NEED the looper to be stereo- if you're running into a single amp anyways, the stereo function of the X3 is negated.

I will say that stereo effects into a stereo looper (with a stereo amp rig of course) sounds pretty damn awesome. I messed around with that for a while, and having your loops pan and your effects ping pong or running different effects into each side really fills out the sound when playing solo.

very well said. appreciate your input. i will be keeping that in mind as well. thanks so much!

[Bryan R. Tyler]

One other thing to keep in mind is that the save/store function on many of these loopers is not particularly necessary. When I first got my Looperlative, I thought that having no storage space might be an inconvenience. What I found though is that looping is really a performance thing, and you don't need to save loops unless you're without a recording interface. Playing back your pre-recorded loops is basically like hitting play on a CD player- it's not particularly creative or exciting to hear or play along with.

Saving loops is cool to practice with; for example, if you need to learn to solo over 10 different chord progressions over the course of a week, keeping those progressions saved to play over can be a handy way to practice. But again, this is only if you don't have any sort of recording interface- otherwise, you can just record them onto your PC and burn a CD of it or just hit Play.

So savable loops are good as a practice tool, but when it comes to creating music or playing live, they aren't really necessary at all.

[r0ckb0tt0m]

Originally Posted by Bryan R. Tyler

One other thing to keep in mind is that the save/store function on many of these loopers is not particularly necessary. When I first got my Looperlative, I thought that having no storage space might be an inconvenience. What I found though is that looping is really a performance thing, and you don't need to save loops unless you're without a recording interface. Playing back your pre-recorded loops is basically like hitting play on a CD player- it's not particularly creative or exciting to hear or play along with.

Saving loops is cool to practice with; for example, if you need to learn to solo over 10 different chord progressions over the course of a week, keeping those progressions saved to play over can be a handy way to practice. But again, this is only if you don't have any sort of recording interface- otherwise, you can just record them onto your PC and burn a CD of it or just hit Play.

So savable loops are good as a practice tool, but when it comes to creating music or playing live, they aren't really necessary at all.

i don't have any of those hi-tech recording interfaces or what have you. but i have like stacks of 1-2gb sd cards (from my 'short-lived' photography days) and an sd card reader. so considering these, i thought maybe the memory thing could be the way to go when considering loopers. but i will still definitely think about other stuff that's out there that could be a match (or close match) to the jm4.

many thanks for the valuable insight. glad i threw this question out here.

[Bryan R. Tyler]

You don't need anything high-tech to record, mind you- a firewire interface can be under $100 and Audacity is a great little recording program that's completely free and about the easiest-to-use recording software ever. Just something to keep in mind

[r0ckb0tt0m]

Originally Posted by Bryan R. Tyler

You don't need anything high-tech to record, mind you- a firewire interface can be under $100 and Audacity is a great little recording program that's completely free and about the easiest-to-use recording software ever. Just something to keep in mind

wow. bryan.. you're the man!