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11-07-2007, 04:22 PM
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Does anyone know why I am having such bother with my overdrive pedal?
I have to split the signal to use my Shergold, and I normally place one signal as a 'clean' signal, and the other signal is the one I then run the effects pedal on. I then combine the two signals again through our band's PA and speakers.
But more recently the resulting sound has been terrible! It is crackly, jumpy and sometimes very weak.
Any ideas?
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11-07-2007, 04:27 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Oakland, California, USA | | Welcome back to the dark side. 
Anyhow... sounds like a problem with the pedal. But first... have you tried running both of your stereo outputs on the Shergold directly into the PA board (no pedal)?
What overdrive pedal is it, BTW?
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11-07-2007, 04:32 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Tyneside, UK | | | The actual Shergold itself sounds fine with a direct feed into the PA. The pedal is a Boss bass overdrive pedal.
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11-07-2007, 04:35 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Oakland, California, USA | | Ah. One of those... 
Kidding, kidding! I'm not a fan of it, though.
It may be loose or dirty/damaged jacks. Check them if you can, or you can even open it up and take a look at the jacks from the inside. Make sure nothing's loose or broken or dirty.
I'd also double-check your cables, if you haven't already done so.
Is it only doing this when it's on?
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11-07-2007, 04:38 PM
|  | I took the one less traveled by | | Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Reims, Champagne, France | | | How do you split and reassemble signals ?
If you use passive blending you will always experience issues, expecially if one of the branches are completely clean.
A better solution would be to use a dedicated box such as a Barge Concepts or a Boss LS-2. |
11-07-2007, 04:39 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Tyneside, UK | | | I set up the equipment like I described in my OP, then proceeded to play. When I got to the part where I needed the pedal and I activated the pedal. I then continued playing and that is when my amp began making horrible noises.
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11-07-2007, 04:41 PM
| | I took the one less traveled by | | Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Reims, Champagne, France | | | You didn't explain how you split signals. |
11-07-2007, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Jazz Ad You didn't explain how you split signals. | I use a stereo to dual mono cable. If my Shergold was a new bass I would have the electrics converted to mono. But seen as it's a 31 year old vintage I can't.
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11-07-2007, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Jazz Ad You didn't explain how you split signals. | Her bass has a stereo output, sort of like a Ric (although IIRC, Rics use two mono jacks instead of a stereo one).
You'd usually have to be the owner of an unpopular, hard-to-find, discontinued-for-a-good-reason Shergold bass to know that.
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11-07-2007, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by MysticBoo Her bass is stereo.
You'd have to be the owner of an unpopular, hard-to-find, discontinued-for-a-good-reason bass to know that. | Not funny!
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11-07-2007, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Fassa Albrecht Not funny! | Sorry... I actually like how it looks, BTW.
I've just never heard it in action!
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11-07-2007, 04:50 PM
| | I took the one less traveled by | | Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Reims, Champagne, France | | I played a Shergold for years. It was pretty old and it never prevented me from modifying it.
This would be a very simple and reversible mod.
It's not like they will ever have a high resale value anyway.  |
11-07-2007, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Jazz Ad I played a Shergold for years. It was pretty old and it never prevented me from modifying it.
This would be a very simple and reversible mod.
It's not like they will ever have a high resale value anyway. | Cool bass! But seriously, I don't want to modify my Shergold- it's already been defretted and had a new bridge put in.
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11-07-2007, 04:59 PM
| | I took the one less traveled by | | Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Reims, Champagne, France | | | Mine was fretless in the first place. Pretty uncommon. |
11-07-2007, 05:02 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Tyneside, UK | | | I'd still like to know why I'm having so much bother effects-wise.
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11-07-2007, 08:14 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Oakland, California, USA | | | So, the pedal is problematic when active... hmm...
Oh yeah, I forgot to ask - are you running it on a battery? If so, replace it.
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11-08-2007, 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by MysticBoo So, the pedal is problematic when active... hmm...
Oh yeah, I forgot to ask - are you running it on a battery? If so, replace it. | The battery is brand-new and is a speciallist musical instrument battery.
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11-08-2007, 10:24 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lubbock, TX | | | Could it be a phase problem, maybe?
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11-08-2007, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Fassa Albrecht Does anyone know why I am having such bother with my overdrive pedal?
I have to split the signal to use my Shergold, and I normally place one signal as a 'clean' signal, and the other signal is the one I then run the effects pedal on. I then combine the two signals again through our band's PA and speakers.
But more recently the resulting sound has been terrible! It is crackly, jumpy and sometimes very weak.
Any ideas? | wait, so are you using a dedicated bass amp at all? or just the PA
I could see your setup being a problem if you run the clean to an amp and the effected one to a PA... I doubt that is your problem though, actually
do you have another bass to test the pedal with? or even use a guitar or something...
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11-08-2007, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Sir Edward V do you have another bass to test the pedal with? or even use a guitar or something... | That'd be a good idea. Chances are, the result won't be any different, but whatever the results are, they'll provide a clear picture of what the problem is.
Trevor, I don't think it could be a phasing issue since it worked fine before... it's only been a problem recently, according to what she's told us.
If it crackles and acts up with another instrument, it may be time to seek a replacement - Boss pedals are difficult to fix because so many components are integrated into a compact circuit board. However, the ODB-3 isn't digital (IIRC), so maybe a tech could repair it if it's just a bad component?
Unfortunately, that'll probably cost more than the pedal's worth. Maybe this would be a good opportunity to try something else.
Or, you could take advantage of Boss' warranty, if you bought it new and it isn't too old.
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