Green Ringer and EBS Octabass question

BassJunkie730 · #1 05-11-2009, 08:59 AM

I'm curious about getting a pedal that does a great analog octave down AND octave up with independant switching of the two.

Now I know the Mutron Octave pedal essentally was a killer octave down with a green ringer thrown on top, and SOMEDAY we may actually see that CERTAIN clone of this pedal - but until then spending $500+ is not an option - and the ringer was operated on a rocker switch anyway

I've also seen Foxrox put out the Octron with independantly selectable octaves, but I'd rather not special order a pedal right now.

SO

I've read that the EBS Octabass can properly trigger even with chords. It must have a REALLY powerful low pass filter in the pedal to trigger the ocatve generator if EBS will openly advertise this ability. AND it got me thinking.

What if I build a green ringer and run it into the Octabass?

will the operation still be clean - or will the ringer cause the Octabass to get glitchy?

Thoughts?

Swimming Bird · #2 05-11-2009, 09:55 AM

My money is on glitch, but then again my green ringer clone (BYOC Armstrong Twin) is near the end of my chain and I've never run it into an octaver. Tonight I'll try green ringer >> Pitchfactor to see if this is plausable.

Hopefully somebody with a green ringer and EBS Octabass will come along in the meantime.

TrevorOfDoom · #3 05-11-2009, 09:57 AM

sorry for the hijack, but how do you like the green ringer? i've thought about building the BYOC one, but don't need the compressor. however, i'll do it if it's worth it.
sound clips anywhere?

to the OP: why not get a MicroPOG? i know it's not analog, but it's about the best out there IMO.

BassJunkie730 · #4 05-11-2009, 10:06 AM

I haven't built one yet - but it's a super simple circuit and it's been on my build list for a while

here's a link to Moosapotamus' ringer/ squeezer clone
http://moosapotamus.net/THINGS/rings...RngSqzBass.mp3

I've been thinking about the pog - BUT I want to be able to turn the upper ocatave on and off via a footswitch - so Pog doesn't cut it.

You know what would be fantastic?

EHX releasing a nano POG - that is just the octave down

Swimming Bird · #5 05-11-2009, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TrevorOfDoom

sorry for the hijack, but how do you like the green ringer? i've thought about building the BYOC one, but don't need the compressor. however, i'll do it if it's worth it.
sound clips anywhere?

It's odd and cuts some low end, but I love it. On bass it's pretty much just a grindy overdrive with some weirdness. The compressor on the A-Twin doesn't have enough headroom for bass, so you'll get a squashed overdrive that's sort of unpleasant, but I really like the 'blue' mode with both together. Put it after a fuzz and you've got an octavia. Put it after an octaver and you've got something for bump 'n' grind. Definitely worth a shot.

bongomania · #6 05-11-2009, 10:19 AM

I had a GGG Green Ringer clone and a DBA Green Ringer clone. The GGG one sounded fantastic, really smooth and musical, however it lost some low end. The DBA one was harsh and distortiony, but he customized it for better low end. So I've intended for quite some time to make a GGG clone (plans are on his site) and mod it for bass.

wazzel · #7 05-11-2009, 10:52 AM

Since we are talking octave pedals, other than the HOG, POG and micro POG what pedal would be a good choise for an octave up?

rratajski · #8 05-12-2009, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BassJunkie730

You know what would be fantastic?

EHX releasing a nano POG - that is just the octave down

...and call it the LOG (Lower Octave Generator). Zing!

I personally don't like the GRO on bass. It sounds thin and has a tiny bit of distortion, but it does sound cool in its own way...at least a little bit. I'll do the HOG any day over the GRO.

BassJunkie730 · #9 05-13-2009, 03:38 PM

I think an Octron 2 would be the way to go - but they are rare.

I'm going to try to snag an octron used for the same price as an Octabass new.

That should do it.

Mr. Ray · #10 05-20-2009, 06:16 AM

I have used the Octabass and a general guitar gadgets green ringer clone. it sounds great together. i found switching the order of effects did greatly influence the sound. it depends what your looking for. i would like to get another GGG Ringer but I would mod it so it would have a blend control with the dry bass. i think that would give you better control.

bongomania · #11 05-20-2009, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Ray

i would like to get another GGG Ringer but I would mod it so it would have a blend control with the dry bass. i think that would give you better control.

In case you actually go that route, be aware that the Ringer flips the phase of your signal and it contains a large percentage of your clean signal already, with the result that using a clean blend actually causes significant interference and dropouts between the signals. The best way to solve this is to use a crossover to split the GR from the clean lows; and the second-best way is to use a blend circuit which has a phase switch.

I had DBA custom make mine with a blend and a phase switch, and even then I was wishing I could separate them further.