guitar bass pedal?

[peaveyuser]

well I heard they have these pedals which make a guitar one octave lower and sound like bass. Is this true? and does it do a decent job?

If so can't this give a bit of competition to us bass player by some bands choosing a guitarist over one of us? mybe not in things like Jazz and Funk but more Hard Rock, Metal, Progressive etc?

[asherthemachine]

o boy..... should i?? no.. ill let somebody else burn you. im just warning you of the onslaught of "do a search" comments. have fun

[peaveyuser]

its a forum I come here to talk, not to be bugged to use the lackluster search function. Hence the name TALK-bass.

I have never seen this question before therefore I have asked it.

[KarateKid25]

Originally Posted by peaveyuser

well I heard they have these pedals which make a guitar one octave lower and sound like bass. Is this true? and does it do a decent job?

If so can't this give a bit of competition to us bass player by some bands choosing a guitarist over one of us? mybe not in things like Jazz and Funk but more Hard Rock, Metal, Progressive etc?

Bass players have octave up pedals too...
Still seems to be plenty of Guitards getting around though.

Also, there are synths as well. They havn't taken over either.

[KarateKid25]

Originally Posted by peaveyuser

its a forum I come here to talk, not to be bugged to use the lackluster search function. Hence the name TALK-bass.

I have never seen this question before therefore I have asked it.

Also, im not having a go, but as a bit of info, if you ever find the search a bit dodgy, use the TB google search function. It works well.

[The Lurker]

yes, octave pedals exist-- they've been around since the late 60s, at least. Pitchshifters like the Digitech Whammy have been around since I think the late 70s.

Bassists are still around.

There are some things that basses just do better than synths or octavers. Besides-- give a guitarist who doesn't know how to play bass parts an octaver and the result will be a guitarist playing an octave lower, which is not what a bassist is (unless you're Joey DiMaio)

Actually, the bass line from Seven Nation Army is a guitar through an octaver.

[bongomania]

Originally Posted by The Lurker

yes, octave pedals exist-- they've been around since the late 60s, at least. Pitchshifters like the Digitech Whammy have been around since I think the late 70s.

Bassists are still around.

+1

I remember when the Yamaha DX7 first came out, and everyone said it would be the death of electric bass guitar forever.

[The Lurker]

Originally Posted by bongomania

+1

I remember when the Yamaha DX7 first came out, and everyone said it would be the death of electric bass guitar forever.

you know, in hindsight I wonder just why they thought it would replace the bass..... I mean, I can't really picture Duff McKagan or Larry Graham playing a keytar....

[tomvelsor]

Originally Posted by KarateKid25

Bass players have octave up pedals too...

exactly. a bass player can try and get a gig as a guitar player by using octave up pedals, and he'd have the same luck as a guitar player trying to play bass by using an octave pedal.

and suboctave pedals seem to be much more common for bass players than guitar players. i think theyre more usefull to a bass player. it gives your bassline an extra backbone, a real big synthy one too..guitarists arent interested in that. plus they rarely can track chords well..(especially triads, or anything more than root 5th chords..)

[GianGian]

Originally Posted by bongomania

+1

I remember when the Yamaha DX7 first came out, and everyone said it would be the death of electric bass guitar forever.

I have a DX7! It is awesome! It never ocurred to me that it could replace a bass...maybe because it really can't.

[McSpunckle]

Even if your guitar sounds like bass, you still need a bass player to pull it off.

[Captain_Arrrg]

Originally Posted by peaveyuser

its a forum I come here to talk, not to be bugged to use the lackluster search function. Hence the name TALK-bass.

Hear, hear!

I understand when it the "Are SX basses any good" thread or one that's is active, but who wants to wade through 3-4 year old posts to read some moldy opinion?

[bongomania]

Sure, except we have posts about octavers every day.

Edit: to be fair though, I don't think we've had a post asking whether an octaver would put a bassist out of a job before.

[dannybuoy]

I saw Supergrass performing in a tiny record shop as The Diamond Hoo Ha Men, just Gaz and the drummer as their bass player was injured. He was using a whammy to harmonise an octave down to compensate, it did a pretty good job of filling the low end.

Jack White of the White Stripes also does a similar thing to play the bass line to Seven Nation Army.

[Captain_Arrrg]

Originally Posted by bongomania

Sure, except we have posts about octavers every day.

Pure hyperbole.

The last octaver thread was in February, and that was specifically about the Octabass.

[bongomania]

That's funny, because I just did a search on the word "octaver" and got twenty threads just from the last two weeks. It's worth noting though that the standard search function is very limited in functionality for non-supporting users. Try the "Google TB" search for better results.

[Bryan R. Tyler]

Originally Posted by Captain_Arrrg

Pure hyperbole.

The last octaver thread was in February, and that was specifically about the Octabass.

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this post = fail.

Even if you don't use the search feature, you can browse through the pages and find multiple octaver threads from just this week.

[Captain_Arrrg]

Funny, I did all that, but I guess it's easier to tell someone they're wrong than prove it. Maybe you guys get different responses when you put "octaver" in Google talkbass or scan the effects forums, I don't know. What I do know is that the statement "...we have posts about octavers every day." is hyperbole unless you want to give a link to prove me wrong.

Also, the army of surly TBers who descend on every unsuspecting newbie wither their cries of "Google TB! Google TB!" do nothing but advertise the Google TB feature. It will never stop posts such as this, the OP will have his/her question answered and the next newbie with a common question will create his/her own new thread.

[Bryan R. Tyler]

Originally Posted by Captain_Arrrg

Funny, I did all that, but I guess it's easier to tell someone they're wrong than prove it. Maybe you guys get different responses when you put "octaver" in Google talkbass or scan the effects forums, I don't know. What I do know is that the statement "...we have posts about octavers every day." is hyperbole unless you want to give a link to prove me wrong.

Bongo and I are longtime members who both came to the same result with some simple looking, as could anyone who looked. It's not on us to prove you wrong- you just are

[bongomania]

You are just failing left and right. You are not a supporting member, and one thing I happen to know from past experience is that if a supporting member does a search and then posts the link to it, a non-supporting member cannot follow the link- it just says "zero results" for them. That is the specific reason, the only reason that we emphasize non-supporting members using the Google TB search.

Since you have no idea what you're talking about at all, I took a screen shot for you:



Notice that all I had room for on the screen was a page full of posts just from the last couple of days, never mind the literally dozens of threads from the prior two weeks that I had mentioned before, nor the literally hundreds of threads preceding them.

Welcome to Talkbass by the way! Learn how it works, and you might enjoy yourself. Fail to learn how it works, and complain about your own failure to understand or fit in, and be prepared for those of us that have a clue to correct you. What you're calling surliness is actually people trying to be helpful- it's just that nobody likes to be told they should do their own homework.