Hammond Organ w/Leslie Sound???

62Start · #1 07-09-2009, 08:11 AM

Anyone know of an effects pedal that will give you a similar sound to a Hammond organ with a Leslie?

Bulltrout · #2 07-09-2009, 08:15 AM

Haven't tried this myself, but I think a bass synth with the square wave turned down (or off) through a vibe pedal or certain phasers (a Nebula would likely be good) would probably get you into the ballpark.

Fishyfan · #3 07-09-2009, 08:19 AM

EHX POG 2 with a Boss RT20 is the closest that I have seen.

René_Julien · #4 07-09-2009, 08:22 AM

I use a POG and RotoMachine for my organ emulation.
(plus a delay is as good as always.

)

Will try to make some soundclips of this if you are interested.

Although I don't know much about the Hammond Organ sound to be honest.

I'm guessing for Hammond style you probably also need a mild overdrive.
My guess: Ibanez TubeScreamer (or TS based bass specific pedal) + micro POG (or big POG or POG2) + chorus and/or tremelo
would get you in the ballpark.

dannybuoy · #5 07-09-2009, 08:26 AM

Option 5 Destination Rotation Single:

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f36/option-5-destination-rotation-single-leslie-sim-soundclips-537885-post7575904/

I bought one recently and it's awesome. I'm looking to add a MicroPOG to make it more organ like. Other alternatives for a leslie sim are:

DLS Rotosim
Boss RT-20
Digitech Expression Factory EX-7
Danelectro Rocky road
Line 6 Roto Machine

Of the cheaper ones, the Digitech is supposedly one of the best, and it also throws in whammy and all kinds of other cool toys. I almost bought one over the Option 5.

Fishyfan · #6 07-09-2009, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by C'thulhu

I'm guessing for Hammond style you probably also need a mild overdrive.
My guess: Ibanez TubeScreamer (or TS based bass specific pedal) + micro POG (or big POG or POG2) + chorus and/or tremelo
would get you in the ballpark.

Overdrive can help, depending on the sound you are going for. if you want a Jon Lord (Deep Purple) style sound, you want a Marshall In A Box pedal for sure. If you want a slightly tamer sound, then an overdrive is very much the way to go.

bassteban · #7 07-09-2009, 08:39 AM

The EHX Wiggler has 4 rotary(or similar)sims+tremolo. It also has a tube & level control, which gets a bit OD-esque at higher settings.

René_Julien · #8 07-09-2009, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannybuoy

Option 5 Destination Rotation Single
DLS Rotosim
Boss RT-20
Digitech Expression Factory EX-7
Danelectro Rocky road
Line 6 Roto Machine

To that list I'd also add: Fishman AFX Chorus (it's called chorus but in reality it's a chorus/flanger/tremelo/rotary pedal).

It's the pedal I'm getting next to replace the RotoMachine.

Also BBE and Behringer make a rotary speaker sim... does anyone have feedback on these?

Kenny Allyn · #9 07-09-2009, 08:59 AM

Playing in a three piece I like to have organ like sounds on tap when needed.

One of my favorite sounds is Garth Hudsons lower register work on The Bands "Chest Fever" live versions have even even more of an overdriven breakup tone that just shakes the ground. To get that vibe I use a combination of a compressor, EBS Octabass, and Micro Vibe into a Roger Mayer Voodoo bass.

For higher register emulation I kick in the POG rather than the Octabass, using the Voodoo Bass for a touch of overdrive as needed.

... I've yet to find one pedal that can do it.

René_Julien · #10 07-09-2009, 09:02 AM

I didn't realized there were so many of us out here.

We can rightfully start an "organ emulators club" here in the effects forum.

It can be done on bass, and it sounds wonderful.

LuvMusic · #11 07-09-2009, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C'thulhu

To that list I'd also add: Fishman AFX Chorus (it's called chorus but in reality it's a chorus/flanger/tremelo/rotary pedal).

The Fishman appears to be an acoustic guitar pedal. Will this work effectively with an electric bass?

Or, am I missing something?

ZB3 · #12 07-09-2009, 09:15 AM

When I need that organ sound I use a 700 pound pedal. The bass pedals that are attached to my Hammond B3 driving (2) 122 Leslies. There is no substitute for the real thing! My favorite organ sound of all time. That pedalboard aways looks great as well. Have fun, Wayne

René_Julien · #13 07-09-2009, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuvMusic

The Fishman appears to be an acoustic guitar pedal. Will this work effectively with an electric bass?

Or, am I missing something?

Allmost all the Fishman pedals work excellently with electric bass.

I'm going to build a smaller pedalboard with my "essentials".
(I'm going to downsize on my effect use.)

Fishman AFX Chorus --> BOSS volume pedal FV500H --> Fishman AFX Delay

3 beautiful silver pedals.

Fishyfan · #14 07-09-2009, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenny Allyn

Playing in a three piece I like to have organ like sounds on tap when needed.

One of my favorite sounds is Garth Hudsons lower register work on The Bands "Chest Fever" live versions have even even more of an overdriven breakup tone that just shakes the ground. To get that vibe I use a combination of a compressor, EBS Octabass, and Micro Vibe into a Roger Mayer Voodoo bass.

For higher register emulation I kick in the POG rather than the Octabass, using the Voodoo Bass for a touch of overdrive as needed.

I love that song and sound. I was playing around with stacking my HOG with an English Muff'n and Vox AC50 set to be fairly distorted and playing that riff. its amazing.

René_Julien · #15 07-09-2009, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZB3

When I need that organ sound I use a 700 pound pedal. The bass pedals that are attached to my Hammond B3 driving (2) 122 Leslies. There is no substitute for the real thing! My favorite organ sound of all time. That pedalboard aways looks great as well. Have fun, Wayne

I'd love to have one of those as well at my home.

Is so cool what you have.

Pic? ... pretty please

I'd love to drool over it.

62Start · #16 07-09-2009, 09:21 AM

WOW and no one mentioned the first three I found myself
Dunlop Rotovibe (Pedal type)
Hughes & Kettner Rotovibe
Fulltone Deja

bigchiefbc · #17 07-09-2009, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 62Start

WOW and no one mentioned the first three I found myself
Dunlop Rotovibe (Pedal type)
Hughes & Kettner Rotovibe
Fulltone Deja

I personally never found the univibes to sound particularly like a leslie, even though I know that was the original intent. Not saying I don't love the sounds of univibes for what they do.

I can personally attest to POG -> RT-20 sounding fantastic for hammond -> leslie tones.

René_Julien · #18 07-09-2009, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigchiefbc

I can personally attest to POG -> RT-20 sounding fantastic for hammond -> leslie tones.

Would you mind sharing your settings for the POG, how you achive a Hammond sound.

Thanks.

groooooove · #19 07-09-2009, 10:11 AM

the rotary sim on the korg ax3000b is domination when it comes to leslie emulation.

2nd in line would be the DLS rotosim.

62Start · #20 07-09-2009, 10:12 AM

I play lead guitar as well as bass and after listening to sound bites decided upon the Digitech EX-7 - about $175 new at Musician'sFriend.

If all you want is the Leslie Rotovibe sound the Behringer RM600 at about $50 looks like a bargain. Some of the others include extras I don't need that push the price to as much as $500.00.