Has anyone used a Paul Cochrane Tim/Timmy pedal?

Ryan Mohr · #1 05-07-2008, 08:04 PM

These are really popular on The Gear Page, and are often described as clear, gritty, transparent, dynamic. Also, they have a bass control and seem to hold a decent amount of low end. Sounds like a good bass OD to me.

seventhson · #2 05-07-2008, 08:53 PM

it's awesome. low end is maintained nicely. it just sounds great. try it!

SpectorBass · #3 05-07-2008, 09:15 PM

My guitarist has a Timmy on his board, sounds great.

Never thought of using it on bass though, I bet it'd sound great.

**5stringwonder** · #4 05-08-2008, 03:59 AM

I've got both. The Timmy is currently on my small board. Using it as a clean boost at the end of my chain. The Tim is likely to be on my bigger board. Of the two, I would prefer the Tim because of the boost feature. Still figuring out what to put the the loop of the Tim though..

Thangfish · #5 05-08-2008, 04:21 AM

Seems to be a difference of opinion here.

Mine is that these are not usable for bass without a way to blend in your dry signal. They loose all your bottom end otherwise.

... and when I say that they loose bottom, I don't mean a little, like the Diesel Dawg... I mean a lot, like most other guitar distortion boxes.

They really sound amazing on guitar though!

dancehallclasher · #6 05-08-2008, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Thangfish

Seems to be a difference of opinion here.

Mine is that these are not usable for bass without a way to blend in your dry signal. They loose all your bottom end otherwise.

... and when I say that they loose bottom, I don't mean a little, like the Diesel Dawg... I mean a lot, like most other guitar distortion boxes.

Just to clarify, did you try it with the bass control on full?

thejohnkim · #7 05-08-2008, 09:38 AM

As a good alternative with a clean blend. I highly highly recommend checking out a NOC3 Pure Drive. It is compared to the Tim by alot of guitarists, but it has an independent clean signal circuit that you can blend in with a quality drive circuit, that has switchable modes of compression, not just the comp-cut and fm mode of the fulltone bassdrive, but 3 settings, hi mid and lo compression.

i haven't fully formed an opinion of it since its my guitarist's pedal, but the clean blend works great, and i loooove the switching options on teh drive circuit. the pedal maker is also only making them until he graduates from college, which is a shame since i haven't found any other pedal with these features.

i havent compared a Pure Drive to a Tim heads up, but guitarists who own both seem to talk very highly of both units.

another plus is that if you buy from the builder, he gives you a few extra parts to swap in and out of the pedal to fine tune the drive circuit to your taste!

edit:

the website:
http://www.noc3effects.com/

JMD730 · #8 05-08-2008, 04:32 PM

I just bought a Tim today. Should be here next week. Should be sweet.

Thangfish · #9 05-08-2008, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dancehallclasher

Just to clarify, did you try it with the bass control on full?

Yes... for about 10 seconds.
Bass control was effective in the upper bass freqs only.
It left the bottom pretty much untouched.

It was quite awhile back. I'll try it again tomorrow.

Thangfish · #10 05-18-2008, 12:42 AM

Finally tried the Timmy again.
Found it pretty much as I remembered.
To much loss of bottom for me.
The bass pot seems to be just a cut, fwiw, and looses a substantial amount of bottom even with it all the way to the left.

irvinz · #11 05-18-2008, 03:34 AM

hmm. been tempted by this pedal. ever tried running an eq in its loop to boost the bass frequencies see if that helps?

JMD730 · #12 05-18-2008, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by irvinz

hmm. been tempted by this pedal. ever tried running an eq in its loop to boost the bass frequencies see if that helps?

I got mine in the mail two days ago. Used it for a show last night. I love it. I don't think that it drops much bass at all, atleast with how i have my amp eq'd. I highly recommend it. I got the Tim. I set it up so the regular channel is a little broken up, and the boost is just a little more. Again. I love it.

jimmy

**5stringwonder** · #13 05-18-2008, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Thangfish

Finally tried the Timmy again.
Found it pretty much as I remembered.
To much loss of bottom for me.
The bass pot seems to be just a cut, fwiw, and looses a substantial amount of bottom even with it all the way to the left.

The bass and treble knobs are both cuts. So turning all the way to the left should retain the most bass. Found that the Timmy does lose some bottom end but not so much that it's unusable for bass. The Tim seems to hold the bottom much better.

Ryan Mohr · #14 06-25-2008, 09:56 AM

bump for a few more opinions, it seems like the Timmy is the only one available now.

seventhson · #15 08-19-2008, 04:11 PM

yea, those controls should be renamed bass *cut* and treble *cut*. otherwise, if you set it flat, you will of course get a loss of bass. not sure if that was what thangfish was doing or not.

i have no idea why he did it this way. we've lived with passive tone controls on our instruments for decades now and there is no ambiguity as to what the "semantics" are.

but the pedal is great imo.

**5stringwonder** · #16 08-20-2008, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by AqueousView11

bump for a few more opinions, it seems like the Timmy is the only one available now.

Both the Tim and the Timmy are still available actually. You've got to order directly from Paul C for the Tim. The Timmy is available from MusicToyz off and on. Stock usually goes pretty fast. A bit more expensive too if you buy from MusicToyz.

**grygrx** · #17 01-14-2010, 09:49 AM

Digging up old threads.

I got one of these (Tim) yesterday in a trade.
My initial impression is

Both EQ knobs are passive cut. 7 O'clock is 0 (or no cut). Leaving the bass knob at that position sounds like no loss of lows to me in my brief testing.

The pedal works like this

Bass EQ -> GAIN STAGE -> Treble EQ

So you can sculpt a pretty interesting low end overdrive tone without any shrillness on the high-end. I found this to be pretty exciting.

The 'boost' mode on the Tim is a 'gain' boost, the amount is set from the knob on the back and can be additionally shaped a little with the tone knob back there.

I'll take some pics and record some clips/demo soon. I just wanted to share.

Pitbull Growl · #18 01-14-2010, 09:55 AM

So... not to derail or anything gryg, but didja get my last PM?

**grygrx** · #19 01-14-2010, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitbull Growl

So... not to derail or anything gryg, but didja get my last PM?

Yeah, I guess I just failed to respond! Fixed.

**grygrx** · #20 01-15-2010, 11:51 AM

A quick video overview: http://bassfuzz.com/2010/01/15/video...-cochrane-tim/