Go Back   TalkBass Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Effects [BG]
Register Rules/FAQ/CUP Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read



Supporting Membership
Thank You

Latest Supporting Member
Donate to Upgrade Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 12-15-2011, 07:52 PM
dlenaghan's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Seoul, South Korea
Supporting Member
Heavy-duty power supply

Sign in to disble this ad
Hi all -

I've been trying to come up with a good solution to power supply problems with pedals that pull a lot of juice. I've got a nice regulated supply for my 9v pedals, but I've got an EHX Hog and Moogerfooger to think about on top of it.

I've tried the OneSpot, but I get some nasty whine when they're both plugged in, though the OneSpot seems to deliver the necessary amperage. They're both 9v pedals, but they seem to exceed the power supplied by isolated supplies, which might get rid of the whine they get when used off the same supply.

My Artec power brick supplies 6 channels of 9v 200mA, pretty standard, plus two other channels that are adjustable from 9-12v, not sure of the amperage.

I had hoped the Dunlop or Voodoo power bricks might have something better, or the Fuel Tank, but it looks like they're all similar numbers of channels, as well as limits on amperage although it's nice to see they've got bridging for higher voltage pedals.

The advantage of the OneSpot was its ability to deliver 'noiseless' power up to something like 1900 mA, which is right around what the Hog (500mA, though whether that's totally accurate or not is beyond me) and the 'Fooger (around 1200mA) come to.

Anyway, I really need to avoid wall warts (and I really don't want to have to pack a power strip on top of it all...), and my pedal board is heavy enough packed with the more standards pedals and the Artec brick.

Any suggestions? Is it unreasonable for me to think there's a slim and portable (OneSpot) but genuinely isolated/regulated (Dunlop/Voodoo/etc) solution?
__________________
Monophone - Instrumental Minimalism
Arne von Brill Postrock from Seoul

Quote:
"Idle lawyers tend to become politicians, so there is a certain social value in keeping lawyers busy."
  #2  
Old 12-18-2011, 11:52 PM
dlenaghan's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Seoul, South Korea
Supporting Member
Bah. Humbug. (Found the Juice Box. 300 bucks though..)
__________________
Monophone - Instrumental Minimalism
Arne von Brill Postrock from Seoul

Quote:
"Idle lawyers tend to become politicians, so there is a certain social value in keeping lawyers busy."
  #3  
Old 12-19-2011, 12:15 AM
bongomania's Avatar
OVNIFX

EXAR pedals rep for North & Central America
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: PDX, OR
GOLD Supporting Member
The Dunlop is a fake, it cosmetically looks like the isolated bricks but it's just a daisy chain.

As far as getting isolated outlets in a super-compact form, yes that is unrealistic. It takes either a transformer or a little circuitboard for each individual isolated output, which is why when you group 9 of them together it only makes sense to house them in a brick-shaped box.

Godlyke has an adapter gadget that isolates any one individual outlet off a daisy chain, but it fails on several levels: adapter is bulky, so if you need more than one you lose any space-savings; it only allows a modest amount of current draw, not enough for digi or tube pedals that are likely to benefit from isolation; and the adapter requires batteries, when the whole point of a plug-in supply is to not use batteries.
__________________
Compressor, preamp, and EQ FAQ <--read first!
Compressor reviews / My blog / Twitter / >> Instrument cable reviews <<
New Exar Bass Compressor coming in late June/early July!
  #4  
Old 12-19-2011, 12:50 AM
dlenaghan's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Seoul, South Korea
Supporting Member
Yeah, I think the Juicebox is the contender. Group like pedals in the 8 outlets (4x2 isolated supplies), then use the bigger mA effects with odd polarity ('fooger) in the 9 and 10 spots.

Daisy chain any add'l small draw pedals from one of the 4x2 groups.

As the guys in Jaws might've said in this situation: we're gonna need a bigger board.
__________________
Monophone - Instrumental Minimalism
Arne von Brill Postrock from Seoul

Quote:
"Idle lawyers tend to become politicians, so there is a certain social value in keeping lawyers busy."
  #5  
Old 12-19-2011, 01:15 AM
bongomania's Avatar
OVNIFX

EXAR pedals rep for North & Central America
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: PDX, OR
GOLD Supporting Member
My tendency lately is to use a Onespot or Powerall for five or six pedals that have no noise/hum problems sharing a common ground, plus one or two individual wall warts for the pedals that need those. If I had more pedals that needed isolated outs I'd get the Voodoo Iso-5, again using it in conjunction with other supplies as needed.
__________________
Compressor, preamp, and EQ FAQ <--read first!
Compressor reviews / My blog / Twitter / >> Instrument cable reviews <<
New Exar Bass Compressor coming in late June/early July!
  #6  
Old 12-19-2011, 07:30 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
What about the Gig Rig Generator:

TheGigRig.com Generator

Loads of power, expandable, and the adaptors for varying voltages, isolation, etc don't look too big.

I don't have any experience with it, but it's been on my radar.

jeremy
  #7  
Old 12-21-2011, 01:44 AM
dlenaghan's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Seoul, South Korea
Supporting Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by eeyorebass
What about the Gig Rig Generator:

TheGigRig.com Generator

Loads of power, expandable, and the adaptors for varying voltages, isolation, etc don't look too big.

I don't have any experience with it, but it's been on my radar.

jeremy
That looks rad as can be. Further research warranted!
__________________
Monophone - Instrumental Minimalism
Arne von Brill Postrock from Seoul

Quote:
"Idle lawyers tend to become politicians, so there is a certain social value in keeping lawyers busy."
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Follow TalkBass on Twitter   Visit TalkBass on Facebook  

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:05 PM.




Copyright 2011 Talk Music Group Inc. All rights reserved.
Play guitar? Visit our new sister site TalkGuitar.com [beta]
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.