Hello! (New Member-help- ehx dmm, etc...)

HeartsndSpades · #1 06-15-2008, 12:52 AM

howdy folks, my names korey im about 45 mins outside of philadelphia, and this is my first post on talk bass

. ive heard alot of good things, and coming from the orange amp forum (dabbled at hc

) am excited to talk to more than 1 or 2 other bassists at a time.

so down to business...

ive decided to go full out into the world of pedals/a board... currently i have a
*peterson strobeostomp
*Fulltone Bassdrive (pre mosfet)
and i just ordered a Electro Harmonix Deluxe Memory Man -- your thoughts on this pedal with bass would be greatly appreciated!!

i also have my sights set on the following:

*Moogerfooger Bass Murf
*T-Rex Bass Juice (fuzz+dist where the fulltone lacks)
*T-Rex Squeezer (compressor)
* power source(?) voodoo labs/t-rex/dunlop brick?

if anyone has any experiece with these pedals or could lend an effects newb like myself any advice on these or other pedals that you think i may need that would be awesome!! i am hopeing on getting most everything done (one by one) by october. and i apologize for the long first post

HeartsndSpades · #2 06-15-2008, 01:23 AM

oh and if the trex trumps the fulltone for regular distortion, i may get a barker bassmaster for fuzz after just listening to the clips...and + maybe an ehx nano bassballs.

bongomania · #3 06-15-2008, 06:31 AM

Welcome to TB, and most especially welcome to the fx forum! One of the things you'll find makes your stay here pleasant and useful is to read up on previous threads on whatever subject you're curious about at any time. So e.g. once you've read some threads about the Memory Man, then you'll have more info for detailed questions about the pros and cons, and you'll also have picked up some recommendations for competing products to look into. Be sure to check out the FAQ; it's got some good stuff in there, including a link to the "Distortion Megathread" as well as the wiki which has loads of soundclips.

tomvelsor · #4 06-15-2008, 07:29 AM

before you buy any other pedals dig on electronix messdrive / messdrive hybrid+. i was nearly in tears (of joy!) when i got mine.

Happynoj · #5 06-15-2008, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by HeartsndSpades

i also have my sights set on the following:

*Moogerfooger Bass Murf
*T-Rex Bass Juice (fuzz+dist where the fulltone lacks)
*T-Rex Squeezer (compressor)
* power source(?) voodoo labs/t-rex/dunlop brick?

Welcome! Nice selection - but I can almost guarantee that your 'wanted' list will expand! Not many people here can resist the GAS!

I hope you have fun, and remember - always do a search!

Sir Edward V · #6 06-15-2008, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Happynoj

Welcome! Nice selection - but I can almost guarantee that your 'wanted' list will expand! Not many people here can resist the GAS!

I hope you have fun, and remember - always do a search!

(GAS is basically wanting something, FYI)

But welcome! Don't get the dunlop DC brick, it is basically an expensive daisy chain. You might as well get a 1Spot with a daisy chain because its the same thing. (actually I think the brick also has two 18V outputs, so I guess you could get it if you need those...)

HeartsndSpades · #7 06-15-2008, 11:58 PM

no other advice guys?!? i searched the memory man, but my comps running to slow to go though all the pedals i listed lol...

so ill make it easy...

which pedal power source would be the best with the pedals i plan on getting?????

(*peterson strobeostomp- 9v
*Fulltone Bassdrive (pre mosfet)- 9-12v
*Electro Harmonix Deluxe Memory Man- 24v(?)
*Moogerfooger Bass Murf- 9v
*T-Rex Bass Juice (fuzz+dist where the fulltone lacks)- 9v
*T-Rex Squeezer (compressor)- 12v
*Melekko b:assmaster)- ?v
*ehx bassballs nano- ?v

- sir ed, sadly i am all to familiar wit da GAS!

rodl2005 · #8 06-16-2008, 12:03 AM

Welcome!! EHX Bassballs is good- I got normal one NOT NANO version tho- Difference???

HeartsndSpades · #9 06-16-2008, 12:22 AM

smaller, not sure what else? cheaper prob?

HeartsndSpades · #10 06-16-2008, 12:59 AM

tom vess- checked out the electronix messdrive clips, sorry to say not for me. the melekko seems to have way more tonal variety, and not as colored imo. glad you like it though and thanks for the suggestion!

KarateKid25 · #11 06-16-2008, 01:59 AM

I got my germanium Malekko B:assmaster today. I havn't tried the silicon one to comment against, but man, im in love with this thing! I have been grinning all day. I go through a fair whack of pedals too... Takes a bit to get me really excited these days.

I will be posting some clips in the next week or so... The ones on the Malekko site don't do it a great justice IMO.

McThumpin · #12 06-16-2008, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Sir Edward V

Don't get the dunlop DC brick, it is basically an expensive daisy chain. You might as well get a 1Spot with a daisy chain because its the same thing. (actually I think the brick also has two 18V outputs, so I guess you could get it if you need those...)

I've got the DC brick, love it. I've heard lots of horror stories involving the 1-Spot, and the few times I've tried one, I wasn't impressed, to say the least. They seem to take their sweet time powering things up, sometimes needing a jiggle or two. Plus, I've heard they crap out if you're trying to power more than a couple units. Yes, they are cheaper than the brick, but you probably get what you pay for. The solidly built DC brick has been great for me, powering 8-9 pedals simultaneously, without issue, ever.

The brick comes with indivdual cords, giving you way more freedom to arrange your pedals, and allowing the user to use only as many as he/she needs.

bongomania · #13 06-16-2008, 10:27 AM

The thing is, McT, it's a daisy chain inside the box. Just because you can't see the daisy chain doesn't mean it isn't one. Also, the times when people have said their 1Spot crapped out, they were using pedals that drew higher amperage than it could provide. The fact that you have powered 8-9 pedals off your Brick only means those pedals had low amperage draw- it actually says nothing about the relative quality of the Brick versus the 1Spot.

As far as durability, you may be right.

dannybuoy · #14 06-16-2008, 10:50 AM

Any reason you got the Deluxe Memory Man instead of the Stereo Memory Man with Hazarai? The latter is 9v, smaller, cheaper, and has way more features including a looper!

JanusZarate · #15 06-16-2008, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by McThumpin

I've got the DC brick, love it. I've heard lots of horror stories involving the 1-Spot...

My first one was DOA. My other one worked fine throughout the entire time I had it, though. I've read of failures on TB in the past... but they're rather rare stories.

In comparison, I've yet to hear DC Brick failure stories... so you might be onto something here.

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Originally Posted by McThumpin

They seem to take their sweet time powering up, sometimes needing a jiggle or two.

That's a first... I've never seen a power supply with a "slow" powerup...

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Originally Posted by McThumpin

Plus, they crap out if you're trying to power more than a couple units. Yes, they are cheaper than the brick, but you get what you pay for.

1700mA versus 1000mA (only 325 of which is for the 9VDC outputs!)... in powering just 9VDC pedals, the 1 Spot has more than 5 times the current capacity.

However, to power 18VDC pedals, you'd have to look to third party voltage pumps which cost $20+... so for those of us using 18VDC pedals, the Brick has the edge.

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Originally Posted by McThumpin

Oh, and it's not daisy chained. The brick comes with indivdual cords, giving you way more freedom to arrange your pedals, and allowing the user to use only as many as he/she needs.

As Bongo said... internally, all of the outputs are "daisy-chained" together. They're not isolated, so in that respect, it's just like the 1 Spot. Sadly, not even the 18VDC side is isolated from the 9VDC side, based on prior experiments.

But regarding durability... my Brick endured a few electrical disasters without fail, so I have to give credit where credit is due.

Plus, there's the hassle of bundling up unused daisy chains with the 1 Spot, and covering the unused plugs to prevent electrical issues. But both the DC Brick and 1 Spot have a wall wart with a thin cable coming off of it... so was never entirely pleased with either. I personally prefer having a thick, durable IEC cord coming out of my power supply.

But for durability, ease of wiring, 18VDC outputs, and minimized hassle... the DC Brick does deliver. It just doesn't deliver in the current (mA) department, and it does nothing for those of us who might need isolated outputs.

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Originally Posted by HeartsndSpades

smaller, not sure what else? cheaper prob?

It's the same as the original, IME, but smaller.

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Originally Posted by HeartsndSpades

which pedal power source would be the best with the pedals i plan on getting?????

(*peterson strobeostomp- 9v
*Fulltone Bassdrive (pre mosfet)- 9-18v
*Electro Harmonix Deluxe Memory Man- 24v
*Moogerfooger Bass Murf- 9v
*T-Rex Bass Juice (fuzz+dist where the fulltone lacks)- 9v
*T-Rex Squeezer (compressor)- 12v
*Melekko b:assmaster)- 9v
*ehx bassballs nano- 9v

I made a few corrections in bold text above.

You have 8 pedals above... this could be tricky.

I was originally going to suggest the Voodoo Lab Pedal Power 2+ (which would power everything above), but it has only 8 outputs... and you'd need 2 outputs for the Deluxe Memory Man (two 12VDC outputs linked by Y-cable to get 24VDC).

...on second thought... you could get a different Y-cable to split one output and power two pedals with it.

There we go... problem solved.

Also, since you're eyeing three distortion pedals... you most likely find later that you only really need two of them. If that happens, then 8 outputs will be all you need, and you won't have to buy the second Y-cable.

And as dannybuoy mentioned, it's worth checking out the Stereo Memory Man with Hazarai... you might like it better, depending on what you're looking for. I know you already ordered the other one, but be sure to try both if you can!

baalroo · #16 06-16-2008, 11:13 AM

DMM ="Darker" analog awesomeness
SMMH = Super clear digital awesomeness

I personally have GAS for BOTH of them.

Sir Edward V · #17 06-16-2008, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by McThumpin

I've got the DC brick, love it. I've heard lots of horror stories involving the 1-Spot, and the few times I've tried one, I wasn't impressed, to say the least. They seem to take their sweet time powering up, sometimes needing a jiggle or two. Plus, they crap out if you're trying to power more than a couple units. Yes, they are cheaper than the brick, but you get what you pay for. The solidly built DC brick has been great for me, powering 8-9 pedals simultaneously, without issue, ever.

Oh, and it's not daisy chained. The brick comes with indivdual cords, giving you way more freedom to arrange your pedals, and allowing the user to use only as many as he/she needs.

I've been using a Boss 9V power supply attached to a 1Spot daisy chain for years. The power supply cable broke once, but I got it fixed and Here I am still using it! it only gives me around 200mA, but I guess since I've had no problems, I don't need that much. But I also have a POG (18V), Q-Tron (24V), JamMan(9VAC), that I use other adapters for. I just plug all these power supplys in to a power strip and keep it under my pedalboard (I build my pedalboard and there is a cavity beneath it to hold things in). I don't see a need for any fancier power supplys, I have no noise issues, and since everything tucks away under my board, I don't care about the mess of wires.

But a few of my friends use 1Spots, they don't have any problems with them. One of them thought he had noise issues so he bought another one to power other effects that he didn't always have plugged in, but it was a different problem, so he bought another for nothing...

If you are going to spend more than $30 on power I say go the whole way and get the voodoo labs one, much better than the DC brick

rcubed · #18 06-16-2008, 11:41 AM

I like the T-Rex Bass Juice. Got to try it out for a bit. It really retains the bottom end. It's also good for some gain. The price is just too much for me. I don't want to spend that kind of money on a pedal at this time.

HeartsndSpades · #19 06-16-2008, 12:03 PM

thanks Mystic, you hit it dead on! i may end up getting rid of the fulltone as it is usually too harsh for me (vintage mode is ok), (although i wouldnt mind having 2 distortions and one fuzz).. either that or screw the bassballs lol.

danny- i chose the deluxe because imho its the best sounding ANALOG delay (also 450$ or so less than moogs) and i plan on using it with my guitar and bass rig. also theyre running out of their current panasonic chip in 5-6 months so i thought id start my board off with it.

HeartsndSpades · #20 06-16-2008, 12:16 PM

oh and mystic i forgot- if the memory man is taking up the voodoo's 2 12v slots, what do i power the 12v squeezer with? or does it have more than 2.. we'll pretend i only have 7 pedals because i didnt quite grasp how the "y" cable would power dual 9 volt pedals through one 9 volt slot? would that cause damage, or just make them not sound as good?