HELP : "breathe in" effect

jukap · #1 09-02-2009, 04:53 PM

It's been a couple month I regularly think of it without finding what the hell this kind of effect could be : I'm searching something like an enveloppe (a loooong enveloppe) making the bass sound "breathing" or "inhaling" (ssssshhh), but inhaling IN and not out. Something I guess modern synths can have, I guess mainly in stereo (and that surely would also have some physical effect onto the speaker).

I'm really sorry but I don't have any sound example to share, it's just something I'm sure I've heard already...

Maybe it could be a tweak of some phaser/flanger or so, or several effects put together, but I guess I've listened to almost effects vids / sample that I could find in this category without success.

Does anyone here have an idea, please ?

Getaway Driver · #2 09-02-2009, 05:49 PM

Try volume swells? Roll your pinky on the volume knob to increase the volume from 0 while you pluck.

kevteop · #3 09-02-2009, 05:56 PM

Are you talking about a volume ramp up, or a reversed delay, or a filter sweeping from low frequencies to high, or... ?

It's hard to tell what you're talking about, sorry.

paradigm_shift · #4 09-03-2009, 02:29 AM

This makes me think the "rise" setting of the boss ph-3 phase shifter is what you are after

jukap · #5 09-03-2009, 03:38 AM

Thanks everyone for the attempts : I know it's VERY hard to try to help me without a sound and such a poor description !

Anyway, it's definitely not a volume swell, it's really an effect that can only be produced by an external device. I' don't know if the PH3 can make it, never heard a demo that could fit, but maybe... Do you please have samples of what you meant ? Anyway, the PH3 is very good at doing the "breath" - song ! - effect from the pink Floyd !

I don't know much of the the filter sweepin : what is it / could it be ? Do you have references of pedals ?

Anyway this is certainly a filter of some kind, with some phasing inside ; it's something very dry, raw, an enveloppe to the sound, but only on the "contour", the bass sound is inside. After reflexion, something that could seem like a tweak of the effect(s) used in Mirwais "Producion / Never Young Again" at 4:01 on the lead synth, even if it's hard to distinguish between the effect and the basssynth sound by itself... The "breath in" is there, but what I seek is in a more "space" way, again more present in that way, and certainly set longer. Filter sweeping maybe, so ? With a little bit of special phase, flange and/or something ??? All of what I heard already sound mostly "out" and not "in"...

lunarpollen · #6 09-03-2009, 08:57 AM

I would guess that you need a delay that has a reverse setting and a mix control so you can eliminate the dry signal. The only problem is that when playing along with stuff, you need to pluck the strings a little before the notes are supposed to sound, so that they fall in the correct spots...

paradigm_shift · #7 09-04-2009, 12:53 AM

where did you hear the sound you are looking for?

Taylor Livingston · #8 09-04-2009, 03:36 AM

Here is the song he mentions above. 4:01.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPVnFH9BM6Q

Since it's hard to imagine exactly what part of that you want to emulate, and it's a synth sound that sounds totally unlike a bass, I'd say you need a phaser. Doesn't sound like an only-upward phaser, but the PH-3 mentioned above does that if you need it.

**TheMutt** · #9 09-04-2009, 04:17 AM

A Digitech Bass Synth Wah, Electro-Harmonix Bassballs, Korg G5, or other formant filter will get you close.

*shameless plug* the synth talk, talker, yaya, and auto-ya on the DigiTech GNX4 can also sound similar

kevteop · #10 09-04-2009, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by conical johnson

Here is the song he mentions above. 4:01.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPVnFH9BM6Q

I'd probably go Bass Micro Synth (mix of just the sub-octave and octave up voices) -> Bassballs for that.