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Old 07-19-2011, 01:31 PM
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Help with finding (or building) Dual Looper w/reverse order

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Hello, I've been trying to either find a place to buy such an item, or to help me with building it, but I've not had much luck. After doing a search here I found this thread Dual Looper w/reverse order but (due to my limited wiring and electronics knowledge) I'm not able to figure out how to go about building this based of the pictures there as some parts are a little hard to see. I also found this store that sells them Dual Reverse Looper v2 - Bright Onion Pedals' Shop but they don't ship outside the EU. The only other source for information that I am aware of was the singlecoil website, but there didn't seem to be one layout/schematic for this particular application (once again, third grade levels of electronics knowledge here); there were only pieces that if you knew what you're doing would be helpful.

So really I'm just hoping you mighty effects users could lend me a hand with either finding a place to buy this or build it. Any help would be appreciated and welcomed like this

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Old 07-20-2011, 05:23 AM
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How much/little do you have with electronics, wiring and soldering?

BeavisAudio has some guides on how to make order-switches and bypass loops here: loop and here: order
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Old 07-20-2011, 06:30 AM
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Here is an order switcher. For your application, you would want to tie the output1 directly to the input2, then you would run bass> input1> output2> amp. If you add a true bypass switch to each set of send/ return, then you will have a dual series looper with order switching.

When reading a true bypass diagram, 'input' on the diagram will be from the 'send' on my order switching diagram; 'output' on the TBP diagram will be to the 'return' on my switching diagram. Hope that is clearer than mud.

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Old 07-20-2011, 08:06 AM
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Dan at this1smyne can build you one if you'd like.

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I ordered one and got in about 10 days. He'll also build fully custom loopers that can include a loop switcher but the wait time is much longer for those.
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Old 07-20-2011, 04:54 PM
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Well, after looking at the Beavis pages and Singlecoil pages I tried to cut and paste this together via paint (with that little touch pad they claim is a mouse on my laptop mind you) so pardon the lack of drawing skills. Regardless, assuming I get everything grounded properly, as they are not in my drawing, would this function like I want it to?
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Also, how difficult would it be to add LED's for showing which loop is first?
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Old 07-20-2011, 05:24 PM
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I don't see why you would use a 4PDT switch for the order, unless you wan't indication light. Give me some minutes and ill draw a wiring diagram for you

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Done! It's not the best, maybe I will redo it later.

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Old 07-20-2011, 08:27 PM
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Well I must say, that is a much better drawing than mine! It's not so much that I want a 4PDT switch, but more of a situation where that's the only solution I've seen a schematic of. So if there's another way of going about it, then I'd be open to that (especially given the price of said 4PDT switch).
In the thread that I linked in my first post, it looked like it was some other kind of switch, but I wasn't able to really make out what it was. A rocking type switch would be cool, then you could orient it to point to the first loop, avoiding adding all those LED's I thought I might need.
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Old 07-21-2011, 02:40 AM
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Well if you use a 3pdt rocker-switch, you'll be good, jut ignore the row with the leds on the 4pdt.
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Old 07-22-2011, 12:28 AM
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AWESOME! Thank you very much Skrogh. I can't wait to try to build this. It shall be GLORIOUS
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Old 07-22-2011, 07:23 AM
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I don't see why you would use a 4PDT switch for the order.
Because I was too lazy to make a drawing from scratch .

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