Help me get back up to speed on the new innovative stuff

JimmyM · #1 04-03-2009, 11:21 PM

The last time I used a pedalboard, the Whammy Pedal was the big innovation at the time. And while I've been looking at pedals again lately, I've been seeing a lot of variations on the same old themes, with nothing especially new or innovative, or even an original twist on an old theme. Yeah, some pedals now combine functions...big deal.

Last night I found this pedal called the Boss Slicer. Now this sucker is innovative. It slices out beats from whatever you play into it and gives them a percussional synthy quality totally unlike anything I've ever heard. Don't know how long it's been around but it's new to me.

That's the kind of stuff I'm looking for. Boss Slicer. Whammy Pedal. Not a fuzz with a gate or an envelope filter with an octave divider. I want stuff that's truly original and makes you think. If I'm going to do this pedal malarkey, I want a couple toys in there that aren't like everything else.

TheWolf · #2 04-03-2009, 11:29 PM

The slicer is very cool.... It is built in to my Boss Gt-10b in some form, I may get a stand alone unit. How about the any of the Eventide Mod/Time/pitchfactors ?

rcubed · #3 04-03-2009, 11:37 PM

Death By Audio and 4ms have some interesting pedals.

uaudio · #4 04-03-2009, 11:56 PM

Check out a few Moog pedals, particularly the Moogerfooger bass MuRF.

JimmyM · #5 04-04-2009, 12:42 AM

Wow! Those are some cool pedals. Moogerfooger looks good for bass. That Eventide Pitchfactor looks like a winner too...like a Whammy Pedal on steroids. Death By Audio and 4ms scare me, though. Those are some very frightening pedals. 4ms especially...their pedals make my brain hurt. The 4ms Nocto Loco was pretty tame by comparison, but even it's insane. And yet I think I could do something with it

Thanks folks...keep 'em coming!

bassman251 · #6 04-04-2009, 01:02 AM

Sure, not saying those pedals are not very useful,. But I would not call them revolutionary but rather evolutionary.

A lot of them are still based somewhat on what has already been done before. Like the slicer, well a looper function has been done, not sure of all the other functions are.

The whammy, octaves on a pedal were already done.

JimmyM · #7 04-04-2009, 04:38 AM

I'm not necessarily looking for brand new effects the likes of which have never been seen, but also effects that take old existing effects and put unique spins on them. Yeah, the Whammy Pedal's based on the octave divider, but to be able to shift pitch like it does was completely unique when it came out. That's what I'm talking about. I don't care if it's 100% new and revolutionary or not. I just want to see how the envelopes are being pushed these days, and I'll decide if it's unique enough for me to be interested.

nbtone · #8 04-04-2009, 12:05 PM

Check out Bass Player's new gear section last month:
http://www.bassplayer.com/Gear/New-Stuff

Mudfuzz · #9 04-04-2009, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed

Death By Audio and 4ms have some interesting pedals.

Yes but are they that innovative? I mean I love extreme fuzz - ringmods and I love DBA and all but.......

Personally I think Lastgasp Art Laboratories is way beyond DBA in innovativeness, just IMOP though.

Mudfuzz · #10 04-04-2009, 12:19 PM

Hey Jimmy check out the FX section at analogue haven [just scroll down] They have some cool stuff such as the lightfoot labs
goatkeeper

rcubed · #11 04-04-2009, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mudfuzz

Yes but are they that innovative? I mean I love extreme fuzz - ringmods and I love DBA and all but.......

Personally I think Lastgasp Art Laboratories is way beyond DBA in innovativeness, just IMOP though.

I know what you're saying but I thought I'd throw them out there.

JimmyM · #12 04-04-2009, 12:58 PM

Exactly, rcubed. Throw them out there and I'll decide if they're innovative enough for me. Let's not forget that there a million threads out there not about me. This one is all about me

rcubed · #13 04-04-2009, 01:13 PM

The Octavious Squeezer is something worth looking out. It's full potential has yet to be realized. Possibly the pedal of the future?

RCCollins · #14 04-04-2009, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed

The Octavious Squeezer is something worth looking out. It's full potential has yet to be realized. Possibly the pedal of the future?

I know the firmware updates are still coming but I expect a Mark II of this pedal - it's exciting, but really seems to have been rushed onto the market before some of the necessary kinks are worked out (ever mind the bells and whistles).

Call me when they add another octave signal, fix the octave tracking, and add expression control, and I'll buy one again in a second.

phatbass · #15 04-04-2009, 01:26 PM

SubDecay Noise Box - a "sorta" fuzz box but one that does weird stuff; from the clips I've heard I want one once my funds level builds up again.

RCCollins · #16 04-04-2009, 01:42 PM

here are some of the effects that have come out in the last year or two that impress me with their potential for novel implementations (I haven't tried all of them)

octavius squeezer (pricey but this could workm for you if they ever work out the kinks mentioned above, it is small and mighty)
empress tremolo as well as their other stuff (tap tempo is finding cool applications these days)
envelope phasers (ehx stereo polyphase, pigtronix ep-1 and 2?)
the whole moogerfooger line, especially in combination (but be sure to invest in a looper, the bypass is disgraceful)
modelled modulation effects (all the woosh without the high end noise) - I am specifically thinking of (are you sitting down, Jimmy?) the TC Electronics Nova Modulator (which I really should buy again, d'oh!)

bigchiefbc · #17 04-04-2009, 01:48 PM

Mid-Fi Electronics: Check out specifically the Glitch Computer, Random Number Generator, Clari(not), Pitch Pirate

CopilotFX: primarily the Antenna 2, Orbit and Gyroscope

Sinister Analog Soul Provider

EDIT: Oh, and the EHX Flanger Hoax is the most incredible modulation box I've ever used. Two phasers, each independently bypassable, and two separate delay lines to accomplish flanger (including thru-zero) and chorus tones. The amount of sounds you can get out of this box is absurd.

Deluge Of Sound · #18 04-04-2009, 02:35 PM

The WMD Giger Counter springs to mind:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0EYJCQTE6A

whoatherechunk · #19 04-04-2009, 02:47 PM

Jimmy M.....i know of some pedals but i think you might shutter in disgust and totally render them useless depending on what style of music you play.

Mudfuzz · #20 04-04-2009, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by whoatherechunk

Jimmy M.....i know of some pedals but i think you might shutter in disgust and totally render them useless depending on what style of music you play.

That makes me think evil thoughts.......................................... ........ Jimmy you NEED to get every box by Trogotronic and review then for us!