Help me name this effect! Should be easy but I can't find it

Damani311 · #1 10-07-2007, 09:15 PM

Whoever can tell me what effect this is (on bass obv.) is my hero.

Seriously

He uses this thing in almost half his songs, I can't tell if it's an envelope or some sort of wah or what.

Help!

If you have to DL the plugin it's made by windows and it's harmless.

Thanks!!!!!!

http://www.artistdirect.com/nad/wind...7-WMLO,00.html

Damani311 · #2 10-07-2007, 09:18 PM

It could also be the most massive EQ'ing i've ever heard.

I know he uses a Warwick Streamer Stage II.

And An SWR 750x........

JanusZarate · #3 10-07-2007, 09:45 PM

I'm not hearing any effect... it sounds like he's playing slap-bass style, actually. You can hear it in his attack. It's also a bit overdriven, but I believe that's from his amp.

My girlfriend's a big 311 fan, and I've been to a recent 311 concert. IIRC, he rarely uses effects - he usually plays fingerstyle, but will also slap from time to time.

If you want that sound, now would be the time to start learning a new technique for bass playing!

niftydog · #4 10-07-2007, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Damani311

I know he uses a Warwick Streamer Stage II.

He's got a gorgeous signature model now - it's super sexy. I'm willing to bet if the OP bought one he'd be satisfied!

It's not helped by the woeful bitrate, but I'm not hearing anything that could be bought in pedal form and just stomped on. That's just how his rig sounds!

Damani311 · #5 10-07-2007, 10:22 PM

That's what I was afraid of......my slap sounds nothing like that

What do you think about the first version of the signature? The one made of french walnut......I like it more, I may get one.

JanusZarate · #6 10-07-2007, 10:30 PM

I'm not a Warwick fan, so I couldn't tell you. You could start by trying different strings - it'll help significantly with your sound and technique. Perhaps the strings you're using are working against you for this sound.

Also... when I saw him live, he was playing that Streamer, and his rig consisted of a heck of a lot of SWR 8x10 cabinets (Megoliath, I think?).

As for EQ... I don't slap, so it's not really something I can give good advice on. Perhaps you should consider boosting the low mids and dialing down the highs a bit? Or maybe scooping the mids?

niftydog · #7 10-08-2007, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Damani311

What do you think about the first version of the signature? The one made of french walnut......I like it more, I may get one.

Well, I prefer the one he actually has, which is not the same as the signature model. It's got purple heart and all kinds of bling going on. But, I'd settle for the above!

The BurgerMeister · #8 10-08-2007, 03:46 AM

it sounds like fat fat slap. that big distortion sound sounds like it's being generated by the mix (ie, punchy slap bass + heavily overdriven guitars = crazy delicious).

FoHBass · #9 10-08-2007, 08:27 AM

Yeah, that's just a standard 'wick SSII, which is what he played before having the sig model made. I'm guessing he either OD'd the board or his preamp to get that sound. I can get close on my 'wick if I hit the strings really hard.

Damani311 · #10 10-08-2007, 09:48 AM

Still seems like his live tone has a wah-like effect, if anyone's ever heard the 311 Day new Orleans DVD you can hear it clearly, it's not just when he's slapping.....i really want to know what he keeps on his rack! There's definately three different pre-amps and a bifilter on there, if i can see correctly.

JanusZarate · #11 10-08-2007, 09:52 AM

Hmm... it's possible that he uses the Bi-Filter live, but I don't recall hearing it when I was at the SF show.

Then again, you couldn't really hear his tone too well that night... maybe it was the venue acoustics or something, but the two other bands (Dirty Heads, Matisyahu) were pretty clear on every instrument.

The Lurker · #12 10-12-2007, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Damani311

Still seems like his live tone has a wah-like effect, if anyone's ever heard the 311 Day new Orleans DVD you can hear it clearly, it's not just when he's slapping.....i really want to know what he keeps on his rack! There's definately three different pre-amps and a bifilter on there, if i can see correctly.

I've noticed the same thing myself.... I don't know if it's a very subtle filter or just the way he plays sometimes but I'm glad that someone besides me notices it....

**TheMutt** · #13 10-13-2007, 04:30 AM

It's almost got that half-cocked wah pedal sound to it to my ears. But I'd agree that it's probably just some mad fat slapping. Try raising your gain, scooping the high mids a bit and boosting the lows and highs. Also, if you're not getting the slap tone that you want from your strings like Boo said, you might want to try something else. Personally, I like DR Hi-Beam stainless steel round cores, but YMMV.