help on my tone/sound

[SgtKrinkle]

So I had recently aquired a digitech xp-100 whammy wah, which in my opinion blows the digitech whammy 4 and most wahs I played out of the water, but.....but it seems to be killing my sound for other effects such as my delay, I put it exactly where my whammy 4 used to be and its doing it. Mainly its killing my delay tone, its hard to hear the effect. My pedal placement is bass>>tuner>>distortion>>delay>>flanger>>chorus>>w hammy>>amp. I've had it like that for a long time and have never had a tonal issue (not sure if tonal is a word) is it because the xp-100 has more effects than the 4 that's its killing my sound, also its been hissing a lot more to, so I ask, what's really goin on?

[Chris K]

Watch this:

"Tone Suck" -- Real? Imaginary? Misattribution?

[KsToaDangr]

personally, i'd go bass, flanger, distortion, chorus, whammy, delay, tuner, amp, but that's just me. play around with the signal path until you find one that suits you.

[Mark Olson]

I don't know, I found the Whammy Wah pretty terrible in every way, even compared to a Whammy 4. Bad tone suck, among other things.

Other than that I always put pitch effects first. When you're synthesizing a note, it should sound like it's coming from an instrument, instruments always by default being the origin of the chain.

What you may be experiencing is that the Whammy isn't tracking your delayed notes from your delay. That's a pretty likely scenario. Easily fixed by putting the delay after the whammy. Also note that the whammy is going to synthesize a note based on your original pitch that's going to sound the same no matter what effects you put before the whammy, modulation, dirt, what have you. All those effects do is make it harder for the whammy to track your pitch. If you want your delay and other effects to affect your pitch shifted sound, you'll have to put them after the whammy.

[SgtKrinkle]

I see said the blind man to his deaf son, so a bit of re-arrangement must be done, other than the tone sucking I find the xp-100 to pretty sick but to each his own, thanx. One last ?, should the distortion be before or after the whammy?

[Mark Olson]

If you want the distortion to affect your pitch shifted sound, the distortion comes after it.

[KsToaDangr]

try it both ways. distorted whammy or whammied distortion. both sound completely different. pretty much depends on which you like better.