help needed !!! what goes first what goes last?

saturnbythree · #1 06-10-2008, 02:27 AM

alright my board is almost complete, all i need to know now is in what order should my effects go,

- Overdrives/Fuzz/Gain Based -

Mojo Hand Cream Pie
BJFE Blueberry
Bluebeard fuzz
Polish Love
HBE Hematoma

- Delays -

Empress Super Delay (With Devi Ever Photo Eye Expression)
Boss DD2 (old but gets the job done)
Dr. Scientist Sunny Day Delay

Moog Ring Modulator (With Expression)
Dr. Scientist Chosmichorus
Roland AP-7 Jet Phase
MXR Phase 90
Digitech Bass Whammy
Boss PN-2 Tremolo/Pan
Analogman Mini Bi-Comp

Boss TU-2

The only thing I'm really sure of is my cream pie would be first in the chain...whatever should go next

Sean S · #2 06-10-2008, 02:28 AM

dannybuoy · #3 06-10-2008, 03:21 AM

Nice collection you've got there, but the first thing I would do is look at what you do and don't need. Do you really need a Blueberry AND a Hematoma on there? They sound pretty similar I think. Also 3 delays and 2 phasers? It's good to have lots of toys, but personally I prefer to have a smaller board with only the essentials that's lighter to carry, easier to power etc.

Also, you might want to put the Whammy first, it'll probably track your notes better. Delay and modulation before will probably confuse the hell out of it!

TaySte_2000 · #4 06-10-2008, 03:23 AM

First - Bass

Last - Amp

Hope this helps

roflol · #5 06-10-2008, 03:26 AM

how do you get all great stuff like that and still not have a clue about where to put stuff?

TaySte_2000 · #6 06-10-2008, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by saturnbythree

alright my board is almost complete, all i need to know now is in what order should my effects go,

- Overdrives/Fuzz/Gain Based -

Mojo Hand Cream Pie
BJFE Blueberry
Bluebeard fuzz
Polish Love
HBE Hematoma

- Delays -

Empress Super Delay (With Devi Ever Photo Eye Expression)
Boss DD2 (old but gets the job done)
Dr. Scientist Sunny Day Delay

Moog Ring Modulator (With Expression)
Dr. Scientist Chosmichorus
Roland AP-7 Jet Phase
MXR Phase 90
Digitech Bass Whammy
Boss PN-2 Tremolo/Pan
Analogman Mini Bi-Comp

Boss TU-2

The only thing I'm really sure of is my cream pie would be first in the chain...whatever should go next

Digitech Bass Whammy - Mojo Hand Cream Pie - Polish Love - HBE Hematoma - Roland AP-7 Jet Phase - Bluebeard fuzz - BJFE Blueberry - Dr. Scientist Chosmichorus - MXR Phase 90 - Boss DD2 (old but gets the job done) - Moog Ring Modulator (With Expression) - Analogman Mini Bi-Comp - Empress Super Delay (With Devi Ever Photo Eye Expression) - Boss PN-2 Tremolo/Pan - Dr. Scientist Sunny Day Delay

You have a lot of pedals that over lap and unless you make your board have a few signal chains like I did (See Master Plan thread) then alot of it is just wasted and tbh it's quite difficult to order them.

If they were mine I'd do this

Digitech Bass Whammy -

(Dry Out) - Mojo Hand Cream Pie - HBE Hematoma -Bluebeard fuzz - BJFE Blueberry - MXR Phase 90 - Moog Ring Modulator (With Expression) - Analogman Mini Bi-Comp - Dr. Scientist Sunny Day Delay

(Wet Out) - Polish Love - Roland AP-7 Jet Phase - Dr. Scientist Chosmichorus - Boss DD2

Mix the 2 signals back together then

Tuner - Empress Super Delay (With Devi Ever Photo Eye Expression) - Boss PN-2 Tremolo/Pan

That would yield something unique

JimmyM · #7 06-10-2008, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by roflol

how do you get all great stuff like that and still not have a clue about where to put stuff?

Hey, anyone with money can buy nice stuff. Not like you have to pass a test. And we all need advice sometimes so lighten up.

The thing I've found is that order isn't especially critical, although I find effects that are dependent on your touch like envelopes and compressors work best first in line so you can feed them a nice strong signal from your bass before other effects can counteract it.

KarateKid25 · #8 06-10-2008, 05:04 AM

I actually have my CP before the Whammy. My chain goes Deep Impact - CP - Whammy and then on and on....

I find it helps my Whammy get a definate note if I hit something a bit sloppy. It helps stop the dying robot digital breakup type sounds.

KarateKid25 · #9 06-10-2008, 07:48 AM

Hey Saturn, Id love to see a pic of your setup

Some nice pedals you got listed there!

saturnbythree · #10 06-10-2008, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by KarateKid25

Hey Saturn, Id love to see a pic of your setup

Some nice pedals you got listed there!

definately! i should have everything done in about 2 weeks, I'm still taking
suggestions....once everything is done ill snap a pic, its been a long time that i've been putting this board together i cant wait for it to be finished.

saturnbythree · #11 06-10-2008, 09:39 AM

also....my whammy and ring mod are in separate loops...because of weird tone loss

baalroo · #12 06-10-2008, 09:43 AM

What type of music also makes a big difference, for example: if you're doing ambient post-rock you might want multiple delays back to back, but if you're doing hard rock it would make sense to break them up into different loops.

saturnbythree · #13 06-10-2008, 09:50 AM

id like to keep as many pedals as i could out of any loops (except the whammy and ring mod) i was thinking of keeping all the delays together, which i probably will do, I'm very heavy on delays and there on often.

whoatherechunk · #14 06-10-2008, 10:15 AM

wow, that's a nice collection. keep us posted!

rustynuts · #15 06-10-2008, 12:45 PM

How about some work in progress pics, those are always interesting to see. What pedalboard have you decided on? And which loopers will you be using?

You can use loops for things other than keeping noisy pedals out of the signal path. They're great for turning on two or more pedals at one click too.

tomvelsor · #16 06-10-2008, 06:13 PM

im ALL for huge boards, but you might just want to make sure you do need all of them..after all, its you carrying them. but if youve thought it out already, you have my blessings..

im usually not too bad at putting signal chains in a good order..but youve just got way too much..not sure where to begin! good luck..

OptimusPrime · #17 06-10-2008, 06:18 PM

When do you get your Bluebeard?

saturnbythree · #18 06-11-2008, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by rustynuts

How about some work in progress pics, those are always interesting to see. What pedalboard have you decided on? And which loopers will you be using?

You can use loops for things other than keeping noisy pedals out of the signal path. They're great for turning on two or more pedals at one click too.

unfortunately i cant get any "work in progress" pics since the board will be made by a tech i know, hes making custom power supplies, jacks, board, buffers ect ect, its going to take him about 2 weeks.

saturnbythree · #19 06-11-2008, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by OptimusPrime

When do you get your Bluebeard?

the last sonny told me was he would be shipping them out on the 7th, should be arriving soon!

Sean S · #20 06-11-2008, 12:13 AM

I'd start with combinations of pedals you like. For example, I think it would be cool to put a delay before the whammy, then into distortion, then another delay. It all depends on what you're trying to achieve with each effect. I personally like modulation after a delay; it gives kind of a spacey sound to it.