HOT HAND 3 (NEW ring design)

willbassyeah · #1 07-24-2012, 01:33 AM

http://www.bassefx.com/collections/s...eless-effects-

Wow new hot hand and capable to be used for any product with expression input, does that mean i can control the m9 with the hot hand now? WOW so stocked

ryansalmond · #2 07-24-2012, 01:58 AM

Link didnt work but found it here http://www.bassefx.com/collections/s...ntroller-sa115

avvie · #3 07-24-2012, 02:04 AM

Well that sucks. I just got the regular one last week.

Kwesi · #4 07-24-2012, 02:45 AM

I knew this day would come

. Now just waiting on that SB2 BEF.

EskimoBassist · #5 07-24-2012, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by willbassyeah

does that mean i can control the m9 with the hot hand now?

I really didn't think you'd be able to but it does look like you can! That's brilliant.

willbassyeah · #6 07-24-2012, 06:57 AM

it does, that is what the description says but the SA website doesnt seems to be updated, was told about this news today, when i enquire on the hot hand, i got the sounblox but no hot hand haha

itswac · #7 07-24-2012, 08:46 AM

Yes we've trickled some Hot Hand 3's out into the market pre-release. As you can imagine, there are a lot of complexities that come up when the ring has to interface with any pedal that takes an expression input.

We would like to build an FAQ for the HH3 so that anyone who picks one up in the future can have a quick and easy guide for connecting it to any pedal on their pedal board.

If you get a HH3, please send me a PM and let me know if you have any tips we should add!

free_Bassd · #8 07-24-2012, 09:02 AM

wait.... you can buy these already!? and they act just as an expression pedal. And they can go on Anything with an exp. pedal 1/4 jack. ummmm my landlord might have to wait another two weeks for rent!

coyoteboy · #9 07-24-2012, 09:33 AM

Is there a wired version with the new interface?

rsmith601 · #10 07-24-2012, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by coyoteboy

Is there a wired version with the new interface?

No. Had not thought of that, actually. Is the interest in this due to pricing or wanting to have a back-up?

willbassyeah · #11 07-24-2012, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by free_Bassd

wait.... you can buy these already!? and they act just as an expression pedal. And they can go on Anything with an exp. pedal 1/4 jack. ummmm my landlord might have to wait another two weeks for rent!

yup exactly, i emailed SA, and they have shipped last week =)) i upgrading my SA BEF to the pro version and so stocked to purchase the new hot hand 3, they will arrive in september in my country haha

HolmeBass · #12 07-24-2012, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by avvie

Well that sucks. I just got the regular one last week.

Me too. No wonder they all of sudden came up in stock. Bleah!

rsmith601 · #13 07-24-2012, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by HolmeBass

Me too. No wonder they all of sudden came up in stock. Bleah!

The old wireless rings will work with the new receiver (and vice versa). We are contemplating selling the new receiver by itself as an upgrade path for those who may have recently purchased the wireless. We would sell it as a part on our SA on line store. With that said, having a back-up ring is not a bad thing.

Note that the HH3 was a complicated development, and we only have a small few that are on the market at the moment.

coyoteboy · #14 07-24-2012, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rsmith601

No. Had not thought of that, actually. Is the interest in this due to pricing or wanting to have a back-up?

Pricing, fewer batts and I play stationarily. Incidentally, how long is the wired wire?

rsmith601 · #15 07-24-2012, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by coyoteboy

Pricing, fewer batts and I play stationarily. Incidentally, how long is the wired wire?

6 feet or so and a 16 ft extension.

Dekker · #16 07-25-2012, 12:16 PM

I had gotten the BEF and MBD a few weeks ago, and when I did I looked at the Hot Hand but didn't pick one up. When I went back last week, I was told it was now out of stock, but I could put my name in for one when it came in. Quoted price was about $30 more than original, so looks like I might be in line for one of the new ones!

ian bell · #17 08-17-2012, 04:56 AM

Just ordered BEF pro and hot hand 3 from bassdirect they have both in stock at present for anyone looking to get hold of one. I will find a way to play this set up with my ebow that I've recently mastered.

Kobaia · #18 08-17-2012, 10:38 AM

I just got mine and I am SUPER PISSED OFF.

Source Audio though of everything except, a reasonable way to POWER THE RECEIVER....

its a 5v mini port. I have no way of powering this thing on my board unless i use the wall wart. which makes it completely useless to put on my board now. way to go!!

if they want their product to be taken seriously then they should've built it with a regular 9v input and put a charging station for the ring right on the receiver. Something that fits the industries standard so that people already working with other products could integrate their products seamlessly.

Basehead · #19 08-17-2012, 11:29 AM

The receiver is small, so I can see the need to use a smaller plug size. Ideally, for me, I'd like a right angle power plug for optimal placement on my board, but I'm still unsure of the size. I mistakenly ordered a right angle extention cord in the wrong size (since I didn't get a response in another thread, but hey, I'm impatient like that!). Would Roger or Will know the size of that plug? I'm now thinking it's a 1.3mm x 3.5mm plug. Any insight would be helpful...

jesseRSA · #20 08-17-2012, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Kobaia

I just got mine and I am SUPER PISSED OFF.

Source Audio though of everything except, a reasonable way to POWER THE RECEIVER....

its a 5v mini port. I have no way of powering this thing on my board unless i use the wall wart. which makes it completely useless to put on my board now. way to go!!

if they want their product to be taken seriously then they should've built it with a regular 9v input and put a charging station for the ring right on the receiver. Something that fits the industries standard so that people already working with other products could integrate their products seamlessly.

Hi Kobaia,
This is Jesse from SA. I'm the guy who designed the HH3.
First, thanks for buying one and I'm sorry that you're having an issue with the design.

You raise a good point that a way should be provided to power the receiver from a standard type pedal board supply.

There are a few things to keep in mind for you and some other users out there:
1. The power adapter is only necessary when using the expression output. When you are using the sensor output, the HH3 receiver is powered through the sensor jack from a Soundblox or Hot Hand pedal. The expression output needs the 5 Volts to work properly.
2. Don't try to use a plug adapter to go from 9V down to the 5 Volts needed on the receiver. This will likely damage the receiver.
3. In terms of the design, using a pedal board supply to directly power the receiver can be potentially problematic since the receiver can send noise "upstream" to the supply. We have a special way of preventing this on our pedals. A separate power supply is the best means of isolation.
4. In case you do need a second supply, we have them available on our online store for short money.

Back to your point, we should be able to solve this issue with a small adapter that we can make as an accessory. Basically it would be a 9V to 5V converter that provides some isolation. I'll get to work on making that happen.
By the way, which board supply are you using?

Last thing, it can be hard to anticipate all of the needs of all of the users out there until you get a product out in the field. So I greatly appreciate customer feedback that we can use to make our products better.

Feel free to contact us on email/phone if you want to discuss further.