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05-25-2010, 10:28 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Washington State | | How do fretless players get that classic fretless sound?
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First, for an example of what I mean by "that classic fretless sound", watch this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCd2h6KPgL8
So I've always wondered: do you get that by just changing your bass and amp controls, or is there a specific effects pedal box that does it? Just curious, for the day someday when I do fretless. hehe | 
05-25-2010, 10:40 AM
|  | OVNIFX EXAR pedals rep for North & Central America | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR | | | That's a chorus effect plus (probably) compression. Pino got one of his classic sounds by using a Boss OC-2 octave-down effect, and playing his lines one octave up from normal. | 
05-25-2010, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by bongomania That's a chorus effect plus (probably) compression. Pino got one of his classic sounds by using a Boss OC-2 octave-down effect, and playing his lines one octave up from normal. | So that's it? You just plug in those effects and just go for it? No changing of the amp controls for tone or anything? lol | 
05-25-2010, 10:47 AM
|  | OVNIFX EXAR pedals rep for North & Central America | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR | | | Well I mean a huge percentage of it is technique, and then having a bass with that upper-mid-throaty tone like an SR or Jazz. That style of playing and tone would sound similar at a wide range of amp EQ settings, so really you should think of amp tone settings as like "final polishing" rather than a fundament of that sound. | 
05-25-2010, 10:50 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Bay Area CA | | | Relatively low action, boost to the upper mids, pluck up by/near the neck..those are the keys.
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05-25-2010, 10:51 AM
|  | GO VEGAN! | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC | | Quote:
Originally Posted by bongomania Well I mean a huge percentage of it is technique, and then having a bass with that upper-mid-throaty tone like an SR or Jazz. That style of playing and tone would sound similar at a wide range of amp EQ settings, so really you should think of amp tone settings as like "final polishing" rather than a fundament of that sound. | +1 Not that I am a big fretless player, but I have noticed that when I'm playing "correctly" (whatever that means) that "mwuaah" comes through really nicely. There are just moments when it really purrs. I think that with a decent fretless (as stated above) and the right technique you'll get that sound without pedals and tons of EQ. | 
05-25-2010, 11:08 AM
|  | Holding the Line, Low, Loud & Proud | | Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leander, TX (outside Austin) | | | Touch, technique and proper set up are more important than what you do with effects or your amp. Pino used a Boss OC2 and some chorus quite a bit and was very fond of his Trace Elliot amps. I use a Submarine to put the finishing touch on my fretless tone. | 
05-25-2010, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by bassbrad Touch, technique and proper set up are more important than what you do with effects or your amp. | This is absolutely the case. However, if you're looking for effects that are often used for that kind of a fretless tone you're talking about chorus, compression and reverb with octaver (specifically the OC-2) providing a synthy addition at times.
The chorus (and less often) the reverb add a thickness to the sound and the compression evens out the volume, generally adds "punch" and definitely allows harmonics to "pop" a bit more. | 
05-25-2010, 11:50 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA | | | To answer the original question, I would say good technique, a good set up, and a Fender-like bass with the bridge pickup dominant. | 
05-25-2010, 12:42 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Rochester, NY | | | The mwah sound - Fretless Bass, very low action, round wound strings, boost the mids, use the bridge pickup and play near the neck (more mwah). I never tried to achieve the mwah sound on a fretted bass using effects. Time to experiment with the ideas already mentioned. | 
05-25-2010, 02:10 PM
|  | OVNIFX EXAR pedals rep for North & Central America | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR | | | Note that the guy in the posted vid has the classic tone in spades, and he's plucking back by the bridge, not by the neck. | 
05-25-2010, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by bassguy74 First, for an example of what I mean by "that classic fretless sound", watch this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCd2h6KPgL8
So I've always wondered: do you get that by just changing your bass and amp controls, or is there a specific effects pedal box that does it? Just curious, for the day someday when I do fretless. hehe | It's the toilet paper.
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