..and how would u arrange my pedals?

XXL · #1 08-10-2007, 05:40 PM

Im just curious really.. Id like to know how other bass players would set up my pedal chain. I have my ways of doing it but id like to see if my way matches up with my fellow bass players.
Heres what I got:
Tech 21 sans amp BDDI (as stomp pedal not in amps effect loop)
Tech 21 XXL bass edition ( ofcourse)
Aphex Punch Factory
Snarling Dawgs Bass Wah (Bawl Buster)
Electro-Harmonix BassBalls
Dan Electro Milkshake Chorus

ARCtrooper225 · #2 08-10-2007, 05:43 PM

EHX Bassballs > Aphex Punch Factory > XXL bass edition > SD Bass Wah> Dan Electro Chorus > Sansamp BDDI

JanusZarate · #3 08-10-2007, 05:45 PM

Aha... a variation on the same basic question we always get!

Hmm... I'd probably do this:

XXL => BassBalls => Bawl Buster => BDDI => Punch Factory => Milkshake

Now, if you wanted to use the BDDI as a DI box, then I'd place it at the end instead. IMO, I prefer the BDDI's DI over the Punch Factory's DI.

Wow... even with only a few pedals, the combinations are numerous!

fishtx · #4 08-10-2007, 07:24 PM

SD Bass Wah> EHX Bassballs > Aphex Punch Factory > XXL bass edition > Dan Electro Chorus > Sansamp BDDI

343 Salty Beans · #5 08-10-2007, 10:57 PM

SD Bass Wah > XXL > Aphex Punch > BDDI > EHX Bassballs > Milkshake. I'd move the BDDI to the end if you're using it as a DI, though.

As you can see, most people put the bassballs before the compressor. The Punch Factory is a very low-ratio compressor, however, and won't help with most volume spikes (same as my Ashdown Compressor). It will, however, make up for some of my crappy playing dynamics

XXL · #6 08-11-2007, 01:22 PM

Interesting I always have the bassballs at the end of the chain..
I have never put the wah at the front of the chain either

ALright!! new ideas to set up the chain..

Thanks

Sir Edward V · #7 08-11-2007, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XXL

Im just curious really.. Id like to know how other bass players would set up my pedal chain. I have my ways of doing it but id like to see if my way matches up with my fellow bass players.
Heres what I got:
Tech 21 sans amp BDDI (as stomp pedal not in amps effect loop)
Tech 21 XXL bass edition ( ofcourse)
Aphex Punch Factory
Snarling Dawgs Bass Wah (Bawl Buster)
Electro-Harmonix BassBalls
Dan Electro Milkshake Chorus

I don't remember what all those different tech21 pedals do... but for the rest of them

Balls=>Wah=>Punch=>Chorus

XXL · #8 08-12-2007, 06:38 PM

Mystic Boos line up seem to work the best having the XXL 1st in chain was a good idea.. I tried the SD 1st in chain and it wasnt working to well.. to bad.

Also for some reason the BDDI doesnt like being behind the Punch..
go figure

Oh and Sir Edward.. the XXL Bass Edition is a distortion pedal.. and the BDDI is a mixed bag of things.. Pre Amp/Stompbox/DirectBox .

One thing i havent tried yet is run all the effects through the BDDI and then use the parallel out into the amp.. is this even worth trying?

XXL

343 Salty Beans · #9 08-13-2007, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XXL

Mystic Boos line up seem to work the best having the XXL 1st in chain was a good idea.. I tried the SD 1st in chain and it wasnt working to well.. to bad.

Also for some reason the BDDI doesnt like being behind the Punch..
go figure

Oh and Sir Edward.. the XXL Bass Edition is a distortion pedal.. and the BDDI is a mixed bag of things.. Pre Amp/Stompbox/DirectBox .

One thing i havent tried yet is run all the effects through the BDDI and then use the parallel out into the amp.. is this even worth trying?

XXL

This is my advice: take an evening and experiment. Start with your fave pedal (my choice in your line would probably be the BDDI), or your 'always on' pedal (compressor?). Set it the way you're going to leave it. Then add your next pedal. Figure out where it likes to be in the chain (for example, BDDI before or after the Punch Factory?). Leave it in, then add your next one. Try it in EVERY SPOT in the chain....you'll be surprised. When I started getting a larger pedalboard, I did this exact same thing, and I was amazed where some of the pedals ended up (OD after comp, fuzz before comp, bass auto q after comp, modulation at the beginning of the chain...). It just wasn't what I expected. Don't follow our advice, follow what sounds best

JanusZarate · #10 08-13-2007, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XXL

One thing i havent tried yet is run all the effects through the BDDI and then use the parallel out into the amp.. is this even worth trying?

Nope. It's just an output for an unaffected signal. It's the same thing as having no SansAmp there.

I can think of a few situations where it'd be useful, but only one is worth mentioning.

Let's say you have an Ampeg SVT-CL rig with an 8x10. Miking that for PA coverage can be a hassle... but the SansAmp was designed to emulate that miked rig. So... in that circumstance, you could avoid the hassle by running the Parallel Out to your rig, and the DI or normal output (DI out is probably better in this case) from your SansAmp to the PA's mixer. It's essentially like having two rigs - one for the stage to hear yourself, and one already set up to use with the PA.

Of course, if you sent the SansAmp's DI signal to the mixer, and still miked the rig anyway, then you really would have the equivalent of two rigs, and that can be advantageous. One could be clean, one could be distorted, etc., etc. - a simple, but effective bi-amping setup.

Anyhow... I'm ranting now. I'll stop

XXL · #11 08-13-2007, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Of course, if you sent the SansAmp's DI signal to the mixer, and still miked the rig anyway, then you really would have the equivalent of two rigs, and that can be advantageous. One could be clean, one could be distorted, etc., etc. - a simple, but effective bi-amping setup.

OH YA!!

I think im gonna start doing this. When ever the sound guy sets up the mic near my amp im gonna hand over my BDDI ..and ask nicely and politely.. DI into the mixer as well por favor.

XXL · #12 08-14-2007, 04:17 AM

XXL=> BDDI=> Punch=> SD=> BB=> Chorus

Thats the new line up that worked best with the active Fender 24.

BTW! Im supposedly getting two new (to me) pedals tomorrow at practice.

Im getting a Behringer FX100 and a Dan Electro Rocky Road. Ive never heard of the Rocky Road, though Im not gonna knock free pedals,just not sure if they would add anything tasty to my chain.. Anyone have either of these two?

343 Salty Beans · #13 08-14-2007, 10:41 AM

Worst case scenario, you can sell them to make 40 bucks or so if you don't like em

XXL · #14 08-16-2007, 12:06 AM

Rocky Road pedal is interesting. It simulates a spinning speaker, it has a ramp switch and a ramp button to stomp on as well as an on /off ( plus speed and drive knobs), it also boosts the volume quite alot..a whole lot. I dunno bout this one yet. Maybe it can be modded or something.

The FX100 by Behringer THIS IS THE GREATEST PEDAL EVER MADE!

ya im pretty dissapointed with the delay and the pitch shifter and well the phaser chorus and flanger all sound alike.. I like the tremelo though.. but ya im thinking this is a pedal that was not made with the bassist in mind.

at the very least I got some new toys for free.

Happynoj · #15 08-16-2007, 01:09 AM

Snarling Dawgs Bass Wah (because I like it before distortions and I like it to be in the far right position in the chain)
Electro-Harmonix BassBalls (envelope filters - near start of chain for best triggering, in front of distortions for THAT sound)
Tech 21 XXL bass edition (distortions = middle of chain - after filters, before modulations)
Dan Electro Milkshake Chorus (end of chain - nice swirly sound after distortions)
Aphex Punch Factory (compressor at the end of the chain to control volume spikes etc)
Tech 21 sans amp BDDI (EQ and DI at the end of the chain, distortion after filters)

XXL · #16 02-25-2008, 03:55 PM

I have a bunch of new and different pedals now.

I still have the BDDI and XXL and the BB. the rest are gone

Heres an updated list.
XXL
BDDI
Q-tron+
Electric Mistress
#1 Echo
Small Stone nano
Bass Balls
105Q
BBE Opto Stomp

I dont have a looper or a blender or even a pedalboard so its just a long ass signal chain from bass to amp.

Is the only pedal thats not true bypass the 105Q? Im debating on rather to take the BDDI out of the chain or not. Im having the most issues with where to start to put my 105Q, Q-tron and BB.

Im using my active Jazz24 for the bass . Id really like an updated signal chain from you the TB effects community. Maybe you guys see somethings that Im not. I also decided to update an old thread rather than start a new one, but I cant edit my 1st post .. so hopefully this doesnt get lost and people start arranging my old pedal list