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05-09-2011, 10:50 PM
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ok so im a big muse fan and ive been looking for what is said to be chirs' sound and i have most of his pedals but ive seen many people debate that the Human gear is the best, but also that the RAT is just the same. Help me out here is the RAT just as good or is the HG Animato better to keep a look out for?
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05-09-2011, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jet_king ok so im a big muse fan and ive been looking for what is said to be chirs' sound and i have most of his pedals but ive seen many people debate that the Human gear is the best, but also that the RAT is just the same. Help me out here is the RAT just as good or is the HG Animato better to keep a look out for? | You just missed out on an animato in the assifieds!
Go for a vintage reissue rat or modded rat. You'll be happier in the long run  . |
05-10-2011, 01:05 AM
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Atypical, not a typical... | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Carlisle, PA | | Sorry, but a vintage rat will NOT take the place of the animato if you are seriously looking to get the sound it makes. Proof is in the pudding. Here is my bands new song where I use the Animato/Muff combo in the chorus (same signal chain as Hysteria). Note the solo version where I use the Deep Impact into the Animato while still using the muff and a clean chain. This is the closest you will get to Chris's sound. YouTube - Running Out Of Time
You will also notice in the video, if you watch it and not listen to it, there is a picture of a first version rat and Russian muff with various settings (2:08)... I have tried every rat out there, and nothing touches the Animato.
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05-10-2011, 01:13 AM
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Isn't the Animato a Fuzz and the Rat,....not a fuzz,....?
Sounds like Apples and Oranges to me. |
05-10-2011, 01:18 AM
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Atypical, not a typical... | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Carlisle, PA | | | You are not correct. The Animato is a high gain distortion box with a very nasal character to it. The rat is also a distortion, but it is brittle sounding and very tinny compared to th Animato. |
05-10-2011, 01:23 AM
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Endorsing Artist: Mojohand, Tone Factor, Subdecay, Overwater, Matamp | | Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Manchester, UK | | Also you get no cool point for owning the Rat  the Animato promotes you to level 10 of TB Pedalboard cool 
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05-10-2011, 01:24 AM
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Atypical, not a typical... | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Carlisle, PA | | | Sweet... I never knew I was that high. Does it double if it is signed by Muse??? |
05-10-2011, 01:29 AM
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Thanks for the clarification though,...I was misinformed. |
05-10-2011, 01:34 AM
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Atypical, not a typical... | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Carlisle, PA | | | Yea, we share that bond... Actually, I believe I have the ONLY ONE in existence... So it is priceless. I also have a Black Pedulla single pick up Rapture signed by them...
And hey, no problem. If I have the info, I share it. No sense in holding it all to myself. |
05-10-2011, 04:52 AM
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Builder for FUZZROCIOUS PEDALS | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Mount Laurel, NJ | | | Didn't grygrx do a animato review? Iirc it was lackluster and the best sounds were the ratty ones. |
05-10-2011, 08:07 AM
|  | Lookout! Here comes the Fuzz! Moderator | | Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Columbia, MO | | | I'm on the 'its a rat' train. It's a solid rat mind you (not like any of the modern versions), but still sounds like a rat to me. The pedal does not make the player.... |
05-10-2011, 09:41 AM
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Atypical, not a typical... | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Carlisle, PA | | | I will agree that used in the way grygrx played it, it was rat "like", however the pedal is not implemented in that manner in regards to the OP question.
The Animato is used in a tri-amped rig. One amp would get the Anmato, one the muff and one clean. Using the pedal this way makes the good characteristics come out and the clean bass to come through masking the low end loss.
Don't get me wrong, Grygrx does a cool service for this board and bassfuzz.com, but I think the context was wrong with this one. Again, listen to the above posted song. You will hear that the bass sounds rich, full and fat, with tons of sizzle, and it actually compliments the guitar. |
05-10-2011, 10:09 AM
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05-10-2011, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by grygrx  I'm on the 'its a rat' train. It's a solid rat mind you (not like any of the modern versions), but still sounds like a rat to me. The pedal does not make the player.... | So true, im with you all the way on that...but who says u cant make it sound weird yes?
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05-10-2011, 04:50 PM
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Atypical, not a typical... | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Carlisle, PA | | | I shot an overview of my rig with many Animato examples today. I'll edit it tonight, and post a video for all to see.. |
05-10-2011, 05:06 PM
| | | | Right now I pretty much have Chris' origin of symmetry board sans animato and fm4. While the RAT isn't dead on I feel it's pretty decent. Mind you I'm not using a pedulla or DBS like kaput but for me I'm a happy camper. I will probably pick up an animato when I have the cash and the opportunity presents itself but for now what I have works. If you'd like to hear pm me with your email and I can shoot you a few recordings.
PS my RAT is a vintage one (LM308).
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05-10-2011, 07:49 PM
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05-10-2011, 07:50 PM
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Atypical, not a typical... | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Carlisle, PA | | | Also, I started editing the video and it sounds great!!!! It'll be up and on YouTube tonight!!!! |
05-11-2011, 12:30 AM
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05-11-2011, 10:07 PM
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