I just bought a Sansamp BDDI and now I regret a little

[topo morto]

Though there is almost some crossover in the sounds available, If you look at what each does well, I don't think the two are really that similar.

The BDDI adds lows, sustain, presence. and warmth to your bass, as well as giving it something of an 'amped' feel. It sounds quite hard.

The VT makes it sound like you are playing like an SVT, as well as giving you a load of clangy tones if you want. It always sounds a bit soft to me.

I've owned both three times, and now own neither. But if you offered me a BDDI, I would take it. I would have no use for a VT.

[goldenglory18]

Funny, I'm the exact opposite.

I traded a BDDI for a VT Deluxe a few weeks ago and I still haven't gotten that same tone of the BDDI out of the VT. Lucky for me though, I found another BDDI on craigslist and picked it up for only $80. Now, the VT Deluxe is listed on CL. LOL

GAS is a SOB, no? Hahaha.....

[Soko]

Originally Posted by goldenglory18

Funny, I'm the exact opposite.

I traded a BDDI for a VT Deluxe a few weeks ago and I still haven't gotten that same tone of the BDDI out of the VT. Lucky for me though, I found another BDDI on craigslist and picked it up for only $80. Now, the VT Deluxe is listed on CL. LOL

GAS is a SOB, no? Hahaha.....

Come on, you must be kidding
That's something I love of your country, your second hand market

I would love to have both so I could compare them playing, not using youtube clips

[elyman6]

Hello. I strongly suggest that you keep the Sansamp and possibly start saving for the VT Bass. Like others here have said, the Sansamp is a "Swiss Army Knife" of bass gear. I stopped using my Sansamp regularly when I switched from a Precision Bass to a Music Man Stingray but I still use it occasionally for random applications and EXTREMELY HAPPY I NEVER SOLD THIS PEDAL because it works so well for: recording, going into PA, and works great with other instruments. I will never sell my Sansamp because for certain situations, it is such a solid pedal.

[scottfeldstein]

Originally Posted by elyman6

Hello. I strongly suggest that you keep the Sansamp ... EXTREMELY HAPPY I NEVER SOLD THIS PEDAL because it works so well for: recording, going into PA, and works great with other instruments. I will never sell my Sansamp because for certain situations, it is such a solid pedal.

Good advice ^

[Soko]

Originally Posted by elyman6

Hello. I strongly suggest that you keep the Sansamp and possibly start saving for the VT Bass. Like others here have said, the Sansamp is a "Swiss Army Knife" of bass gear. I stopped using my Sansamp regularly when I switched from a Precision Bass to a Music Man Stingray but I still use it occasionally for random applications and EXTREMELY HAPPY I NEVER SOLD THIS PEDAL because it works so well for: recording, going into PA, and works great with other instruments. I will never sell my Sansamp because for certain situations, it is such a solid pedal.

Thank you for the advice

[Darknut]

Originally Posted by elyman6

Hello. I strongly suggest that you keep the Sansamp and possibly start saving for the VT Bass. Like others here have said, the Sansamp is a "Swiss Army Knife" of bass gear. I stopped using my Sansamp regularly when I switched from a Precision Bass to a Music Man Stingray but I still use it occasionally for random applications and EXTREMELY HAPPY I NEVER SOLD THIS PEDAL because it works so well for: recording, going into PA, and works great with other instruments. I will never sell my Sansamp because for certain situations, it is such a solid pedal.

May I ask why you quit using the Sansamp with the Stingray?

I use my Sansamp with a Pbass & a Stingray works equally good with both IMHO with slight tweaking.

[NKUSigEp]

I dunno if it was the cheesy paint or what but the VT Bass wasn't my thing. The BDDI is an excellent pedal though and if you dial back the bass and treble a little, you start getting more of your mids back.

[G3Mitch]

Originally Posted by Soko

That's something I've read a lot here. The blend knob. Is this so important it makes the BDDI a better choice over the VT?

i have owned both, and find the BDDI more useable because of the blend knob. Sure, the VT has a mids knob but it took over the tone of EVERYTHING. Bass, pedals, amp. BDDI gives my tone the extra life, without sacrificing any of my other gear. That's just me though.

The VT is a cool pedal, don't get me wrong - just wasn't for me - note that I also thought without the speaker sim engaged it sounded shite.

[Soko]

Originally Posted by G3Mitch

i have owned both, and find the BDDI more useable because of the blend knob. Sure, the VT has a mids knob but it took over the tone of EVERYTHING. Bass, pedals, amp. BDDI gives my tone the extra life, without sacrificing any of my other gear. That's just me though.

The VT is a cool pedal, don't get me wrong - just wasn't for me - note that I also thought without the speaker sim engaged it sounded shite.

So lets say, the VT works like an amp in-a-box and the BDDI lets you play more with your original signal, isn't it?

[HolmeBass]

Different strokes for different folks, but I see the BDDI as the amp-in-a-box and the VT as more of an effect pedal/pre-amp.

Why can't you buy from the used market here in the US? Just offer an extra $10 or $20 to cover the international shipping, and get the seller to say it's a gift? Of course I am totally making that up off the top of my head...

[G3Mitch]

Originally Posted by Soko

So lets say, the VT works like an amp in-a-box and the BDDI lets you play more with your original signal, isn't it?

thats the way I see it, yes.

[Soko]

Originally Posted by HolmeBass

Different strokes for different folks, but I see the BDDI as the amp-in-a-box and the VT as more of an effect pedal/pre-amp.

Why can't you buy from the used market here in the US? Just offer an extra $10 or $20 to cover the international shipping, and get the seller to say it's a gift? Of course I am totally making that up off the top of my head...

Well... first of all, people selling stuff via Craigslist or similar don't believe me, think I am a scammer (imagine receiving an email from a musician from Spain, yes, very reliable haha), so it's difficult to purchase material from this websites

And the gift trick... well, it used to work years ago but, my friend, nowadays customs are a f*****g hell. So, let's say I buy an item for 80$... plus the 30$ shipping, taxes, customs, tributes, sacrifices to the king (kidding )... at the end I can pay 140$ easily, shipping included.

[scottfeldstein]

Originally Posted by Soko

So lets say, the VT works like an amp in-a-box and the BDDI lets you play more with your original signal, isn't it?

The BDDI lets you use your original signal, yes. But my own experience was that the effected signal was so problematic for me that I needed to use my original signal. A lot. Like 3/4. And I didn't particularly care for the feel of the grit. It was a little rough, a little mechanical. I wanted more grit, but could only stand to turn it up so high. When I did crank it up I again needed to keep the blend down. Here's an example of one of the settings I experimented with. Notice the low blend level.

http://scottfeldstein.net/misc/2012/...ubey_fuzz1.jpg

I loved having a good DI, though.

The VT has no DI. And no blend. But it does have a mid. And I figure it might not be an always-on type pedal. I would either have a) my middy, burpy, jazzy sound (basically nothing but my compressor); b) my VT, retro, huge, gritty rock sound and c) a highly effected sound made out of Source Audio magic.

But the great thing about it is that sound b, that rock sound, will be awesome. I say this based on my experience with the BDDI and a lot of headphone listening on youtube.

At least that's the plan. I wish I could A-B these things with my own rig.

[Session1969]

The VT Deluxe is a fantastic piece of gear.

[Soko]

Originally Posted by Session1969

The VT Deluxe is a fantastic piece of gear.

If I change the BDDI for the VT it wouldn't be the Deluxe. Too much for me

[wshines1892]

There is a deep, deep pit of regret festering in my soul where my BDDI once was. It made all things sound good from my 15 watt practice amp, to going direct through PAs, and even if I dropped it down in a tube sock and used it during a prison riot.

Thought I'd really like the VT, and now it sits on my board unused a lot of time. It doesn't drive quite like the BDDI did, it just seems to be missing something. I recently acquired a Zoom B3 though that has a very good BDDI model with a mids knob. As a matter of fact, the Zoom B3 is slowly filling the pit of despair the BDDI left.

[chief redcok]

Hahhahahah funny, the same thing happened to me, I got rid of that BDDI fast

[makanudo]

Man, now you got me thinking.. I'm torn between BDDI and VT bass.

My gear is a Ibanez SR505 and an Acoustic B100 amp and I'm looking for that kind of tone ben lemelin gets in the vt video.

What do you guys think? does my current gear matter at all when choosing between those two or is it irrelevant?

[Soko]

I've been playing with the BDDI and all I can say is... the amp I use at home is s**t.
OK OK, I knew it before buying the Sansamp toy, it was a present for my birthday when I was younger and was starting playing bass, but I realize I really need a new one.