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02-13-2008, 08:56 AM
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ME.... asking for help...
I know... sounds wierd....
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I need to know if there is any way to create a droning type note with a delay. I can muster some serious compression with my current setup (pretty much involves comp->comp or dist->comp) so I can really suppress the attack of my notes, but I wouldnt mind some advise on setup/usage of delay for having the note repete into infinity (or as close to it as possible)
Before anyone asks: My setup is still the PODxt, tho I am thinking to getting the X3 for the dual amp thingy. I've been reading up on the manual and stuff and I will be able to have a delay created drone and still be able to play some cool (hopfully) stuff over it.
Man, I'm so digital sometimes.....
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02-13-2008, 09:29 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Oakland, California, USA | | Overdrive/fuzz + delay (with time at minimum, feedback at maximum) + compressor.
I have a clip of some really over-the-top delay madness that was produced with my old EHX #1 Echo being fed fuzz by a Blowtorch (with a Clone Theory at the end for an ambient effect). I twiddled with the delay time (which is why it gets crazy), but I always kept it low - otherwise, you lose that droning noise. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page...songID=5634090
Not sure if that's what you generally had in mind, but it's a start. I didn't do any clips with a consistent delay time, but if you follow my advice from above, it should do the trick, I think.
I'd highly recommend a compressor after the delay for reasons other than sustain... feedback can be a nightmare on your speakers 
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02-13-2008, 12:38 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: The Berkshires, Ma | | | You can get a drone by playing a swelled note into a typical digital delay and then hitting the hold switch. I don't know if the POD has a hold function, the Zoom does with an external switch. Or am I misunderstanding what you're going for? |
02-13-2008, 02:00 PM
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02-13-2008, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by SpankyPants  WAIT! When did Tulip come back!???!??! | You two are like ghosts around here.
Welcome to the club.
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02-13-2008, 02:10 PM
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02-13-2008, 02:14 PM
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02-13-2008, 02:17 PM
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02-13-2008, 02:51 PM
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02-13-2008, 02:58 PM
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You misunderstood that I wasn't misunderstanding. |
02-13-2008, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by bongomania Wat pedel will giv me a chain-clanking effect like Marley? | You want the Dickens Effects Christmas Past... it's a combination of reverb and ring modulation. Lowering your action should help quite a bit, too.
Or it might just make you sound like Fieldy. 
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02-13-2008, 03:23 PM
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02-13-2008, 03:25 PM
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02-13-2008, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Toasted max repeats and delay time. It's called osciallation and it's beautiful. | That's what I do. Rules.
PS: I tried to find a picture of Butt-head as Marley's Ghost from that one Xmas episode but totally failed. Sucks.
PisS: I love this thread.
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02-13-2008, 04:58 PM
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The past being a few months ago, that is. |
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Originally Posted by bongomania Wat pedel will giv me a chain-clanking effect like Marley? | uhm do a search...
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02-14-2008, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by MysticBoo Overdrive/fuzz + delay (with time at minimum, feedback at maximum) + compressor.
I have a clip of some really over-the-top delay madness that was produced with my old EHX #1 Echo being fed fuzz by a Blowtorch (with a Clone Theory at the end for an ambient effect). I twiddled with the delay time (which is why it gets crazy), but I always kept it low - otherwise, you lose that droning noise. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page...songID=5634090
Not sure if that's what you generally had in mind, but it's a start. I didn't do any clips with a consistent delay time, but if you follow my advice from above, it should do the trick, I think.
I'd highly recommend a compressor after the delay for reasons other than sustain... feedback can be a nightmare on your speakers | Quote:
Originally Posted by Swift713 You can get a drone by playing a swelled note into a typical digital delay and then hitting the hold switch. I don't know if the POD has a hold function, the Zoom does with an external switch. Or am I misunderstanding what you're going for? | Boo: Not quite what i was going for. Think long droning note that goes on forever....
Swift: I WISH that the pod had a hold function.......... but no. Instead I can set the volume pedal to affect only one tone in a given patch (there are two per patch, kinda like bi-amping). I can prime up the delay with my awful noise, then back off the volume. Im pretty sure i can set it up so that i can bypass the amp section of the other tone in the patch, muting it in the process. I can then hit a switch, un-muting the tone and play over/under/whatever the delaying drone. Hell, i can just leave the 2nd patch unmuted the whole time for an interesting effect, i imagine...
Hope that makes a little sense. I know what I mean..... if thats any consolation....
So Boo, i wont have to worry about insane feedback cus i wont be feeding the delay monster all the time Quote:
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Originally Posted by bongomania It's a joke about ghosts... and noobs asking "wat pedel will sound like Muse" etc... | So wat pedel will mak me sound like Muse? Quote:
Originally Posted by Toasted max repeats and delay time. It's called osciallation and it's beautiful. | Makes sense. Any sugestion on the time or should i just crank it to max. I forget what the max time is on the pod..... I THINK its 1500 ms.... Quote:
Originally Posted by bassman314 uhm do a search... | you got me 
EDIT: Looked up "Delay Drone" and got and old thread OF MINE Got to try out the Trem....
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02-14-2008, 09:07 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Oakland, California, USA | | Oh, the other kind of droning.
Well, you do need a "sample and hold" effect for that, I'd imagine. Delay just doesn't do it. It'll do droning feedback, but not sustaining a note.
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02-14-2008, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by MysticBoo Oh, the other kind of droning.
Well, you do need a "sample and hold" effect for that, I'd imagine. Delay just doesn't do it. It'll do droning feedback, but not sustaining a note. | I don't know, been experimenting with Toasted's theory and i can get something thats pretty close to what i want just on the fly useing the sub dub preset, no comp....
Having the volume occilation when the delay repetes is kinda cool. Not quite plain drone, but something with movement.
Ill keep you all posted. I may be renting the X3 in a couple of weeks (omgdanstryingbeforehebbqs?), so keep on the edge of your seat till then lol | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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