I want this tone

AntAir267 · #1 05-25-2011, 05:47 PM

I totally want to emultae this Krist Novoselic's tone for this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Zr1dVYNJic

His bass part starts at 2:53 (There are 2 bass parts in the song.)

I am open to buying stuff but nothing over $200-$300.

I have a P-bass with rounds if and an SD Quarter Pounder that helps. I also have a Bronco that's going to get SD Hot Rails with a series/parallel switch. I've only been playing for about a year so I don't know about effects; I don't have any pedals (open to buying one), and I am running it through a terrible 15 watt Crate guitar amp (gonna get a new amp for Christmas). Thanks!

EDIT: Here is a live video where the guitarist (Pat Smear) does Krist's part on a double neck guitar bass: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=738EW...64B2EFCD1113B5

He comes in at 3:12 on this one.

bassplayerken · #2 05-25-2011, 05:58 PM

The parts you are referring to are completely different. The first sounds like a synth pedal effect with maybe some distortion in front of it. The second is a clean tone.

**T. B. Player** · #3 05-25-2011, 06:05 PM

Find out what kind of bass he uses, what's it made of, what strings are used, what pickups, what electronics.

Then, find out what kinds of pedals are used...anything in the chain.

Then, what kind of amp, what are its settings, and what are the speakers.

Of course, if there's a sound guy or engineer involved, then you'll have to find out all about that gear too.

If you find the tone you want to call your own, you have to experiment with everything until you find it.

Interestingly, once you find it, play with a band, and go into the studio, your idea of tone means squat. It's what the producer wants to hear and what the engineer can make happen to produce the best recording possible in that person's mind. You just happen to be the one providing the bottom line, so your playing better be clean, tasteful and tight with the drummer. Maybe you can add some solo-oriented licks every now and then.

Z

chuck norriss · #4 05-25-2011, 06:08 PM

Novoselic in Vampire Weekend? wrong bassist or wrong vid

blastjv · #5 05-25-2011, 07:00 PM

I'm guessing the Vampire Weekend clip was a mistake. Krist's part on I Should have Known does have a sick gnarly tone. He was playing a Gibson (Grabber, I think) on that track (you can see him recording it on the Wasting Light DVD). I think it was just a overdriven tube amp of some kind. Great tone, though.....

-JV

AntAir267 · #6 05-25-2011, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by chuck norriss

Novoselic in Vampire Weekend? wrong bassist or wrong vid

There is no one in Vampire Weekend named Novoselic. Krist Novoselic was the bassist for Nirvana and he did a guest appearance for the Foo Fighters on "I Should Have Known"

EDIT: I mistakenly linked to a Vampire Weekend video I was showing my friend. I'll switch it out right now.

cataract · #7 05-25-2011, 08:33 PM

Buy a Gibson Ripper bass.

Steveaux · #8 05-25-2011, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by cataract

Buy a Gibson Ripper bass.

Ding, ding, ding !!!!

Winner!

AntAir267 · #9 05-25-2011, 09:07 PM

About Rippers, why are they all so expensive? Didn't they retail for $300 (or so I've heard) back in the day?

blastjv · #10 05-25-2011, 09:21 PM

PS - I think my Way Huge Pork Loin could get me close.

-JV

cataract · #11 05-25-2011, 09:22 PM

I bought one on ebay back in 1998 for $500.
I regret selling it to this very day.

AntAir267 · #12 05-25-2011, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cataract

I bought one on ebay back in 1998 for $500.
I regret selling it to this very day.

It hurt me inside to read that (not joking.)

AntAir267 · #13 05-25-2011, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by blastjv

PS - I think my Way Huge Pork Loin could get me close.

-JV

Doing research, sounds good so far.

bigchiefbc · #14 05-25-2011, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by T. B. Player

Interestingly, once you find it, play with a band, and go into the studio, your idea of tone means squat. It's what the producer wants to hear and what the engineer can make happen to produce the best recording possible in that person's mind. You just happen to be the one providing the bottom line, so your playing better be clean, tasteful and tight with the drummer. Maybe you can add some solo-oriented licks every now and then.

Z

Ugh, who are these engineers and producers you've worked with? Their job is to realize YOUR vision, not the other way around. Clean tasteful and tight? No . Frigging. Thank you. How boring. Not every bassist's job is to go "thump thump thump"

Sorry for the derail.

Eric! · #15 05-25-2011, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bigchiefbc

every bassist's job is to go "thump thump thump"

out of context ftw

bigchiefbc · #16 05-25-2011, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric!

out of context ftw

vivifiction · #17 05-26-2011, 01:09 AM

Lot of options. I feel like I could tweak a number of bass drives to get a tone like that'un. pork loin is probably a good place to start. A BassDrive can get tones like that, as could any number of sansamp products. Just remember, your bass and amp are going to have much more of an impact on your tone than a pedal will.

matybigfro · #18 07-24-2011, 05:50 PM

sounds like he's playing through a marshall to me

Doelle · #19 07-24-2011, 06:33 PM

I think he used some Rat incarnation for it. It sounds rattish and if you watch.... THIS CLIP!
‪Foo Fighters - Back And Forth - Krist Novoselic plays bass‬&rlm; - YouTube
At 2:14 it looks like a rat next to his foot. And ofcourse the Ripper has something to say. Black has such a special tone to it!

RickenBoogie · #20 07-24-2011, 06:35 PM

If you're playing through a crappy 15 watt guitar amp, that's what needs changing. Forget putting money into fx pedals until AFTER you have a proper bass rig.