Im new, advice on pedals for me?

Grant2389 · #1 12-08-2008, 09:52 AM

I own a 2008 USA Fender P-Bass 5 string. LOVE IT. love the tone and all. I play contemp christian and worship type stuff. Ill try to describe the sound i want...Thick, not poppy, Smooth, Deep, even. Here's the pedals im looking into. Radial Bassbone, Ashdown Compressor, DD3 Delay, and korg tuner. Any suggestions? btw i do not use and amp. all in ears. Which of these pedals are necessary and which are not. Ive based my ideas off of bands i like/heard live with p-bass. leeland, future of forestry, etc... Thanks alot friends! ill add a pic of me and my baby just cuz i love it so much haha

rratajski · #2 12-08-2008, 10:04 AM

DD-3 is a basic, road-tested pedal. It'll take a beating and let you do your delay. The only problem I have with the pedal is that when you hit a note, the delay hits immediately, then the delays roll in on whatever speed you've dialed in.

What's your $ limit on delay. Ebay or the used section of your local music store are good places to look if $ is an issue.

Many of us on here have the Korg Pitchblack. Search it up...it's a fantastic, reliable, FAST, accurate tuner. Worth every penny!

Check out Bongo's compressor megathread on here! Very useful on helping you find the compressor you really want.

stflbn · #3 12-08-2008, 10:08 AM

My experience with Delay on bass is that it thickens but also at the same time can easily mask or hide bass in a mix. Great for solo sections or solo musicians, but not really usable as far as I'm concerned for a traditional bass player doing what bass players traditionally do.

Grant2389 · #4 12-08-2008, 10:11 AM

Thanks Alot Bro! and im not sure what my dollar amount is really. I always set an amount but never stick to it.haha. I will check out the compressor thread. I really like the memory man delay but that thing is high!

Grant2389 · #5 12-08-2008, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stflbn

My experience with Delay on bass is that it thickens but also at the same time can easily mask or hide bass in a mix. Great for solo sections or solo musicians, but not really usable as far as I'm concerned for a traditional bass player doing what bass players traditionally do.

Thanks for the input! anyone have an advice or opinion on the bassbone and compressor? I guess those are the main two im focused on. Will that thicken up my p bass even more? is anyone familiar with these pedals in a contemp christian or worship setting?

stflbn · #6 12-08-2008, 10:14 AM

Might want to look into EBS MultiComp or a Compulator compressor pedal. Both are highly regarded. On a budget a BBE OptoStomp does very well and is regarded well also.

uaudio · #7 12-08-2008, 10:19 AM

I've done all in-ear gigs and the first place I started was getting a real, decent pedal preamp before anything else. Try a Sansamp, or a Tone Hammer. The Bassbone is kind of like a jack of all trades but not really a master of any - the DI is kind of crap and so is the preamp, IMO.

If you're running all in-ears that suggests a level of technical competency at your venue, have your engineer do your compression for you at the board. Talk to your sound guy before you spend the money, cause if you're doing large church stuff, chances are they compress it anyway and your compression is kind of meaningless. Not to say you shouldn't have a compressor, but not really much point if you're getting recompressed.

For the most part, Delay is an interesting effect that most people have no business using on bass unless they're playing very specific types of music. I play CCM music (covers and original) and I can't really think of any time, ever, where I thought it was a good idea.

Grant2389 · #8 12-08-2008, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uaudio

I've done all in-ear gigs and the first place I started was getting a real, decent pedal preamp before anything else. Try a Sansamp, or a Tone Hammer. The Bassbone is kind of like a jack of all trades but not really a master of any - the DI is kind of crap and so is the preamp, IMO.

If you're running all in-ears that suggests a level of technical competency at your venue, have your engineer do your compression for you at the board. Talk to your sound guy before you spend the money, cause if you're doing large church stuff, chances are they compress it anyway and your compression is kind of meaningless. Not to say you shouldn't have a compressor, but not really much point if you're getting recompressed.

For the most part, Delay is an interesting effect that most people have no business using on bass unless they're playing very specific types of music. I play CCM music (covers and original) and I can't really think of any time, ever, where I thought it was a good idea.

Thanks Man! so the bassbone is garbage? i really thought that it would be better than any sansamp based on reviews. thanks for the opinion. and i may just sit out on the delay and go for the ebs comp. any other opinions?

cybersnyder · #9 12-08-2008, 10:53 AM

I'd consider some digital modeling. Something like a Line6 X3L, or a Boss GT-10B will be great for ampless playing and give you a lot of effects and amp models to play with to figure out what sound you like. Later on when you decide what effects you like the best, look into buying the real deal.

Just a thought.

Grant2389 · #10 12-08-2008, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cybersnyder

I'd consider some digital modeling. Something like a Line6 X3L, or a Boss GT-10B will be great for ampless playing and give you a lot of effects and amp models to play with to figure out what sound you like. Later on when you decide what effects you like the best, look into buying the real deal.

Just a thought.

Thanks for the idea! Ive played some of these pedals that ive mentioned i just wanna know what to invest in. More input?

WalterBush · #11 12-08-2008, 11:06 AM

Get a good preamp/DI, period. Work closely with your soundman...depending on the board, they'll be able to much more for you FOH, up to and including having the ability to recall different presets for you.

I've found, personally, that most effects and pedals just distract from the bassists' job. Unless you can pinpoint a specific need for delay, fuzz, etc. I'd avoid using anything other than a good pre and DI.

Look for the name "Jensen" somewhere on the DI. Can't go wrong that way.

Grant2389 · #12 12-08-2008, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WalterBush

Get good preamp/DI, period. Work closely with your soundman...depending on the board, they'll be able to much more for you FOH, up to and including having the ability to recall different presets for you.

I've found, personally, that most effects and pedals just distract from the bassists' job. Unless you can pinpoint a specific need for delay, fuzz, etc. I'd avoid using anything other than a good pre and DI.

Look for the name "Jensen" somewhere on the DI. Can't go wrong that way.

Sweet! thanks alot man. I think i will stick with a good pre/di and maybe a compression. thats it! i do not want to distract as im sure you know playing in a worship setting. I just want the thump and pulse of the bass to be "felt". my p bass tone is amazing to me right now. i just want to enhance that. thanks alot !!

rratajski · #13 12-08-2008, 12:37 PM

There's always a Sansamp Bass Driver DI of some sort up on the classifieds on this board the 'other' boards...You should have some luck w/ that if a flexible DI is what you end up needing.

JAUQO III-X · #14 12-10-2008, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grant2389

Thanks Man! so the bassbone is garbage?

That's a matter of opinion.

I have been using the Bassbone for years and the DI is one of the best I have ever encountered. Overall the bassbone is very clean and I have not met a sound man or engineer in a studio that had any thing negative to say about the bassbone,especially it's DI.

I always use my bassbone(and it's DI)live and in the studio.

Check out some of the other DI's that Radial has to offer.

And me having a Radial endorsement has nothing to do with my thoughts and opinions on the Bassbone.

It speaks for itself.