I'm really really sorry but.........

TaySte_2000 · #1 02-15-2008, 02:13 AM

I'm seriously considering a decent multi/rack fx unit and selling off loads of pedals

What it is is my second board is used to inspire me, I don't use it live but I do use it with my drummer for jamming and working up our little side project that is just for our own enjoyment.

I always hoped that I end up doing more and more studio work but as my band gets bigger and bigger and with an up coming tour of japan I barely have time to sleep let alone play with other people and all my studio work for the past 2 years has been direct into the board not even using a high end di or micing up an amp.

So when I look at the things I want to buy and the things I have I think I'd just be better off getting something I can play around with at home, since my main issue with multi's is in a live situation they are very annoying to tweak but I won't be using it live this isn't an issue. The other issue is the drives plain suck on them but I'd keep my Huckleberry, Hyperpak and Cream Pies maybe even sell the Hyperpak and get the Mule again.

I listen to Steve Lawson live and his filter and delay sounds are awesome. John Entwistle using one of those old digitech tube rack fx his sounds were sweet as well and neither I can get from my current pedals.

The things I was considering buying are the Subdecay Prometheus, Looper, another delay like a Nova etc etc, REDDI, 1964 WEM 15w tube amp and none I'll be using in my band or in the studio so it's like what's the point same with some of the pedals I own they just won't be used in my band, Octron 2, V8, Gurgle and Moan, Echo Box, Quasar, Fembot and Soul Provider.

My band board would stay as is.

I'm not saying these effects are bad infact its the opposite when I sit at home bit of delay some octave down and phaser I can play all day but these are all things I can get out of a decent rack fx and have money in the bank. Plus I'd get all the extra things, tap tempo delays, reverbs modulations I don't have like ring mods and tremelo's

I don't know the point of this post I guess I'm looking for thoughts and opinions on this all.

irvinz · #2 02-15-2008, 02:29 AM

ah, just today someone advised me to go 'rack'. and it was tempting, just cant afford a nice rack unit atm. still a poor student. i guess if you go for a rack unit, you won;'t be constantly going after new stuff?

well, i think u just need to be cured of GAS =p

**TheMutt** · #3 02-15-2008, 02:39 AM

Honestly, I've considered giving up all of my effects pedals as well for a really great rack effects unit that could do everything that I've got and a ton more. The only thing that's really holding me back is the price. Had I the cash, I'd gladly trade in hauling around my effects board in addition to bass, cab, and amp (already rackmounted) for just having to worry about my rack with amp and effects unit, cab, and bass. If you got a cheapo one that had terrible sounds, I don't know if I could look at you again though after knowing what jems you've already got on your boards...

Toasted · #4 02-15-2008, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TaySte_2000

an up coming tour of japan

KLANG

irvinz · #5 02-15-2008, 03:29 AM

klang is the name of my hometown. nowhere near japan

phatbass30 · #6 02-15-2008, 03:31 AM

i've nothing against racks or multi floor pedal effects. i had some before. korg a4, a5 and the latest was boss gt-6b. it has lots of great presets. great sounds and effects. but i realized, i just need few sounds to get the job done. and the sounds coming from it, its too digital. so i switched to the good ol' stomp box. and i really liked the sound coming from it. and as much as possible, analog. that's how my venture to the pedal world started. its difficult to get the sound you want. lots of wasted money,time and efforts. but now i can always say that i'm satisfied with what i have. although we all know there's no end to it. but for now, i'm quite done. when my wireless comes, i will be a very happy man. it gives me an excitement to go to the gig every night, although i've been playing with the same people for the past 9 years! so that's just me. i think i will never use a rack or multi floor pedals again. analog still sounds better. IMHO. oh and my guitar player, he was using a t.c. electronics G major? something like that. he sold it. now he's on a quest to the analog world like me. he's just begining, i'm almost done.

irvinz · #7 02-15-2008, 03:48 AM

then again. he is just using it for home use

phatbass30 · #8 02-15-2008, 03:55 AM

yeah you're right. me, it's my job. i don't have day jobs like some of you here. my gigs, that's my bread and butter. i understand.

irvinz · #9 02-15-2008, 04:07 AM

in a month. i wont even have a job. lol. kinda.

TaySte_2000 · #10 02-15-2008, 04:12 AM

Please bare in mind that even if I do do this I'll still have 10 or so analog pedals maybe more.

phatbass30 · #11 02-15-2008, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TaySte_2000

Please bare in mind that even if I do do this I'll still have 10 or so analog pedals maybe more.

still more than mine.

TaySte, actually you're the one responsible for me buying a bottom feeder! lol! in fairness, i like it a lot!

Oreomeister365 · #12 02-15-2008, 04:43 AM

ummmmmmm......

can I have your stuff?

TaySte_2000 · #13 02-15-2008, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Oreomeister365

ummmmmmm......

can I have your stuff?

Can i have your money?

Oreomeister365 · #14 02-15-2008, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TaySte_2000

Can i have your money?

No you see, you're quitting, so you can just give it to me. It's fine, man, I won't hold anything against you if you just ship it all to me.

But really, I wants to see what you wants to sell

TaySte_2000 · #15 02-15-2008, 05:46 AM

Can any one suggest a rack unit that has switch able instrument level effects loops, 2 ideally but can live with 1.

Cheers

roflol · #16 02-15-2008, 06:18 AM

damn never thought i'd see the day atleast you'll still be using 93427402387 effects

Nyarlathotep · #17 02-15-2008, 07:42 AM

1- DONT sell yur pedals

2- sure, get a multi

3- see "1", trust me, i regret it sometimes

speak_onion · #18 02-15-2008, 07:50 AM

Yeah, I agree that the annoying thing about digital multis is using them live. You can't tweak on the fly and you need to make sure that the input and output levels are just right, and you need to make sure you're on the right bank and blah blah blah

If you're just doing home stuff, then I think digital is a fine way. When I'm at home just playing around with stuff by myself, and I don't have my pedals handy, I just plug in and set up a chain of plugins in Ableton and play away. That might be something for you to consider. You might not even need a multieffect if you just get yourself a good, low-latency audio interface with a gutiar impedence input and some software to host plugins. Then you can just load in billions of free plugins and have a new slate of effects every single day. It will probably cost less than the multi also, depending on what of those things you already have. Just think about it.

TaySte_2000 · #19 02-15-2008, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by speak_onion

Yeah, I agree that the annoying thing about digital multis is using them live. You can't tweak on the fly and you need to make sure that the input and output levels are just right, and you need to make sure you're on the right bank and blah blah blah

If you're just doing home stuff, then I think digital is a fine way. When I'm at home just playing around with stuff by myself, and I don't have my pedals handy, I just plug in and set up a chain of plugins in Ableton and play away. That might be something for you to consider. You might not even need a multieffect if you just get yourself a good, low-latency audio interface with a gutiar impedence input and some software to host plugins. Then you can just load in billions of free plugins and have a new slate of effects every single day. It will probably cost less than the multi also, depending on what of those things you already have. Just think about it.

This did also cross my mind I'm using a Mac with Garageband and an M-Audio Mobile USB Pre but I've never tried using it to live process sound as I'd also love to give looping a go if I could get a cheap midi controller for it.

So what would be my cheapest/free way of processing my sound this way?

cybersnyder · #20 02-15-2008, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TaySte_2000

This did also cross my mind I'm using a Mac with Garageband and an M-Audio Mobile USB Pre but I've never tried using it to live process sound as I'd also love to give looping a go if I could get a cheap midi controller for it.

So what would be my cheapest/free way of processing my sound this way?

Didn't Steve Vai replace a lot of his pedal and racks with a laptop for live use? He still uses some pedals though.