The iOS bass player thread. (Jamup XT, Audiobus, Multitrack DAW and more)

[adambomb]

Originally Posted by Joe Nerve

I paid $40 last month. Did they raise the price? If they did, they may have also added some pluging that I had to buy seperately.

Sorry last time I checked it it was quite a few weeks ago it was $49.99

[adambomb]

Originally Posted by fivestringgecko

I think I just heard several more nails in Amplitube's coffin...

5sg.

Click, click........boom

[adambomb]

Since the "shunning".... and the creation of this new thread
This thread is moving at super fast pace

23 pages since the 17th .

Hard to keep up .......wow

All you new guys to the iOS threads are great

[Duke21]

Major letdown, so far.
Hi guys.
So, I've got the Focustire iTrack today, very excited to try it.
At work I've used it as a DAC/ headphone preamp connected to my MacBook. Works very well, and drives my AKG K701 easily. Nice open sound etc.
But, connecting the iTrack to an iDevice is one little letdown as the cable is so short. And even though both ends look identical to the much longer cable from the Apogee Jam, the Apogee Jam cable seem to no transfer signal from the iTrack to the iPad.
So I need to buy one of the Apple extension cables. That is not really a problem.
Tried the iTrack connected to the iPad as a DAC/ headphone amp and listened to music on my AKG K701 which are heavy to drive. Great sound which is almost as good as my DACport.
But, now connecting the bass to the iTrack and running Jamup..... Nothing! Same goes for all apps, Garage Band, Ampkit, GK app. Haven't checked AT as it is not installed after the last update.
So, I was just curios and tried to connect the bass to the mic input, SOUND! But the sound was kind of dark and a bit muddy. Had to push the input gain on the iTrack to 60-70% to get the green light. But I had only a stereo cable into XLR. So I'm not sure if this is the reason for the dark and a bit muddy sound. Connected the bass again with a regular mono cable to the guitar input on the iTrack. No sound but the gain light turn green from almost zero gain on the gain knob.
One thing I'm sure, Jamup and the rest of the apps including MT DAW do not see the guitar signal, only the mic! So the right channel is not recognized, only the left mic channel.

So, I'm not familiar with the differences between a mic XLR input and a mono instrument input. Will a mono to XLR cable fix the issue, thus I could use the left channel which have mic input.

If not, then I hope you Calvin reads this post and see if you guys can fix Jamup to look on both left and right channels on devices like the iTrack.
If not I have an idea or two.
Until then here are 2 pictures:

[Calvin Abel]

the iTrack is using channel 2 for guitar, we are actually looking into it, maybe need to add an input selector menu.

[Duke21]

You guys are great! Thanks!

[stcy_dhl]

Such an interesting and positive exchange on this thread... I just wanted to add that I played through Jamup last night at rehearsal... Jammed for about 10 minutes without a single issue... We use a behringer in-ear monitoring system... Pretty sweet setup. Went strictly through the FOH to the IEM system ( singers were warming up so I was muted in the house). No abnormal noises to report! Sounded fantastic! Wasn't planning on using it yet, but saw the chance and took it.
Signal chain is Ibanez BTB 676 > iRig > iPod 3rd gen > Jamup xt > passive DI
Looking forward to taking this further!

[BigBeatNut]

Originally Posted by adambomb

Since the "shunning".... and the creation of this new thread
This thread is moving at super fast pace

23 pages since the 17th .

Hard to keep up .......wow

All you new guys to the iOS threads are great

Yeah ... hard to keep up.

It's almost worth it's own sub-forum.

[nick98338]

Originally Posted by stcy_dhl

Such an interesting and positive exchange on this thread... I just wanted to add that I played through Jamup last night at rehearsal... Jammed for about 10 minutes without a single issue... We use a behringer in-ear monitoring system... Pretty sweet setup. Went strictly through the FOH to the IEM system ( singers were warming up so I was muted in the house). No abnormal noises to report! Sounded fantastic! Wasn't planning on using it yet, but saw the chance and took it.
Signal chain is Ibanez BTB 676 > iRig > iPod 3rd gen > Jamup xt > passive DI
Looking forward to taking this further!

OK. First, how long did you use the rig? I ask, because I've run into power issues with the idea of going live with an iPod. Second, what, if anything, did you attach your iPod to? Third, how do you manage cabling? Thanks.

[Rip Topaz]

If you use the Irig interface, you can still plug in your device for power.

With the quality of sound coming from Jamup since the update, even Irig sounds great and the noise filter doesn't neuter your tone like the one in AT.

[kevinmoore73]

I can use my FCB1010 with Amplitube to control a variety of things in addition to stompbox on/off. I also have JamUp Pro XT with the bass pack, but MIDI support seems to be absent. I would really like to leave Amplitube (and all IK products) in the past, but the ability to control my iPad effects with my feet is very important.

[stcy_dhl]

Originally Posted by nick98338

OK. First, how long did you use the rig? I ask, because I've run into power issues with the idea of going live with an iPod. Second, what, if anything, did you attach your iPod to? Third, how do you manage cabling? Thanks.

10 minutes of straight up jamming with our drummer.. Straight battery. Again, it was rather spontaneous, so I just laid the iPod on a stage prop and used a 3' instrument cable between bass and iRig... I used a 1/8" to 1/4" cable from iRig to DI... Unfortunately it's only 3 ft long(which is why I had asked how others were setting theirs up).... For future, more permanent usage, I will need a 6' cable and probably the iclip... And definitely keep it charging!

[Rip Topaz]

BTW, I'd like to once again cast a vote that Jamup needs a tougher name.

Just kidding (a little), I was just jamming with a beat I made in DM1, then imported into Loopy via Audiocopy, then linked Loopy and Jamup via Audiobus. Whew!! Sounds like a lot but took five minutes from the thought of the beat to first note jamming along.

Having a decent drum machine on my phone is really sparking some creativity. I can build a beat or three, then import them into Loopy and build a song. I still need to add MT DAW so I can finalize some recordings, but I'm having a blast and can honestly say that this is the first time in many years that I've been totally happy with my bass tone. Even better that my amp now weighs less than a pound.

[Rip Topaz]

I recorded a few clips using several amps in Jamup, using the Sampler built into Jamup. Was having a weirdness with Audiobus tonight that I didn't feel like pinpointing, so I stayed completely in Jamup.
Check out my Soundcloud for the two clips. One is super short, the other is a bit longer.
http://soundcloud.com/rip_topaz/readhead-blueline-and-mutron

http://soundcloud.com/rip_topaz/whynot

[PrietoBass]

Originally Posted by Rip Topaz

I recorded a few clips using several amps in Jamup, using the Sampler built into Jamup. Was having a weirdness with Audiobus tonight that I didn't feel like pinpointing, so I stayed completely in Jamup.
Check out my Soundcloud for the two clips. One is super short, the other is a bit longer.
http://soundcloud.com/rip_topaz/read...ine-and-mutron

http://soundcloud.com/rip_topaz/whynot

Cool clips Rip, sound very musical.

[steve_rolfeca]

Originally Posted by Mr. Pickles

Is anyone using their iOS setup direct to FOH, in front of or in the effects loop of an amp? If so, please post your signal chain and thoughts. I've been scanning through the thread but didn't see if anyone had already commented on this.

The engineer who posted about clock noise has me wondering if any of this "interference" is in the audible range and if it is, how much of a problem does this present for recording applications.

No engineers here that I'm aware of, just a tech.

I believe that RF leakage standards on portable devices have to deal with worst-case scenarios. We're only talking about potential problems, that I suspect most users probably won't run into.

From what I can find on the web, no-one has actually had anything particularly dire happen because of a 30-pin extender cable. I would personally use one if I needed it.

Just be aware that if you get any odd behaviour (increased noise in your audio, fuzzy picture if your rig is close to a TV monitor, etc.), the extender cable might be the cause. The nice thing is that it's easy to bypass the extension, if you ever need to.

[Duke21]

Originally Posted by Rip Topaz

If you use the Irig interface, you can still plug in your device for power.

With the quality of sound coming from Jamup since the update, even Irig sounds great and the noise filter doesn't neuter your tone like the one in AT.

I've never had a problem with battery endurance as long as the iDevice is about fully charged. There are two things one can do to ensure the device is using minimum battery.
1) adjust screen brightness to the minimum you need.
2) turn off wifi and cellular networks, or just put on flight mode.
Other wise I'm impressed that iPod gen 3 is up to it regarding CPU power and Jamup as with Amplitube it will struggle. It only means that Jamup is well written, but then we shell not be shocked by that point as performance seem to be today's benchmark for iOS emulation and tone.

[Duke21]

Originally Posted by stcy_dhl

10 minutes of straight up jamming with our drummer.. Straight battery. Again, it was rather spontaneous, so I just laid the iPod on a stage prop and used a 3' instrument cable between bass and iRig... I used a 1/8" to 1/4" cable from iRig to DI... Unfortunately it's only 3 ft long(which is why I had asked how others were setting theirs up).... For future, more permanent usage, I will need a 6' cable and probably the iclip... And definitely keep it charging!

Again, strange, never had any problems with battery life time. On my iPad 1 and iPad mini I never even bother to turn off wifi. But my screen brightness is always trimmed down.

[Duke21]

Originally Posted by steve_rolfeca

No engineers here that I'm aware of, just a tech.

I believe that RF leakage standards on portable devices have to deal with worst-case scenarios. We're only talking about potential problems, that I suspect most users probably won't run into.

From what I can find on the web, no-one has actually had anything particularly dire happen because of a 30-pin extender cable. I would personally use one if I needed it.

Just be aware that if you get any odd behaviour (increased noise in your audio, fuzzy picture if your rig is close to a TV monitor, etc.), the extender cable might be the cause. The nice thing is that it's easy to bypass the extension, if you ever need to.

I'm an engineer, but in mechanics... Not much knowledge for electrons.... Give me yield strength, Young's modulus, torsion, forces, CAD and such and I know what I'm doing

[Duke21]

Btw Steve, why do you think the Apogee cable will not work with the iTrack? They seem to be identical at both ends.