The iOS bass player thread. (Jamup XT, Audiobus, Multitrack DAW and more)

[Duke21]

I'll try that! Thanks as always for the tech info!

[steve_rolfeca]

Originally Posted by SolarMan

...I wonder, how hard would it be to modify the iTrack so you can select if the output from guitar is Ch 1 or Ch2?

I might have to have a go at it (modding the iTrack) and report back.

I wish you the best of luck, but the problem is that everything in the iTrack after the input jacks, is going to be digital.

It's not as simple as switching a couple of wires on a jack, so that the ch1 signal goes to the ch2 side of the iPad, and vice versa.

[nick98338]

So, I did a little recording experiment. Same clip five ways. First, clip 1, the original with the bass "subdued" somewhat. Could not reduce the bass too much or the kick would disappear, Clip 2, me playing bass using JamUp and the Blue Line. Clip 3 is the K800. Clip 4 is the B15. Clip 5 is the Red. I thing any of these sims will sound just fine for any os the recording I'm likely to do.

SoundCloud Clip:
http://snd.sc/Vkjol6

[Rip Topaz]

Originally Posted by nick98338

So, I did a little recording experiment. Same clip five ways. First, clip 1, the original with the bass "subdued" somewhat. Could not reduce the bass too much or the kick would disappear, Clip 2, me playing bass using JamUp and the Blue Line. Clip 3 is the K800. Clip 4 is the B15. Clip 5 is the Red. I thing any of these sims will sound just fine for any os the recording I'm likely to do.

SoundCloud Clip:
http://snd.sc/Vkjol6

Sounds good, but it's mixed so well it's hard to hear the bass. Maybe pull the backing music back a little so your bass is the dominant part of the mix. Any of those tones are great, just tough to pick out.

[adambomb]

Originally Posted by steve_rolfeca

Use the PBDDI.

The mic channel is not going to provide a good sounding termination for your bass, without a DI in the middle.

Oh, and that XLR adapter isn't stereo- it's balanced 1/4 inch to XLR.

A real 1/4" to XLR adapter for guitar, has one side of the balanced pair grounded. It's still not going to give you a good sound through the mic input without a DI of some sort...

That's what I was saying but it was early for me. (The coffee hasn't gotten into my veins yet) an xlr input on a soundboard is the same way thats why the bass is Di'd as well here too not just for signal strength of long cable runs. The impedance needed to be matched by the DI not only changed from unbalanced to balanced. That's why you had to crank the gain so high to get a strong enough signal. and it doesnt ever sound right that way. it always will be not as full and articulate. The impedance wasn't correct.
Right?

[nick98338]

Originally Posted by Rip Topaz

Sounds good, but it's mixed so well it's hard to hear the bass. Maybe pull the backing music back a little so your bass is the dominant part of the mix. Any of those tones are great, just tough to pick out.

Well, that was kinda my goal. To see which amp sims would mix well. More specifically, which amps might 'not' mix well. I don't play anything solo. Everything I play is in a mix, with other instruments. So, I really don't need to know what any tone might sound like 'out front'. For this experiment, my conclusion is same as yours. They all sound great!

[adambomb]

Originally Posted by SolarMan

Well, that is UGLY! But the hope for ch 1 ch 2 on JamUp makes it still exciting.

I wonder, how hard would it be to modify the iTrack so you can select if the output from guitar is Ch 1 or Ch2?

I might have to have a go at it (modding the iTrack) and report back.

please don't do that. that's scary.... on many levels
just DI the mic input

[adambomb]

Originally Posted by steve_rolfeca

A real 1/4" to XLR adapter for guitar, has one side of the balanced pair grounded. It's still not going to give you a good sound through the mic input without a DI of some sort...

+1
the adapter doesn't change the impedance it just allows you to plug in

[PilbaraBass]

Yes but a transformer adapter WILL change the impedance ... But then, this isn't all that different to a passive DI.

[adambomb]

Originally Posted by nick98338

So, I did a little recording experiment. Same clip five ways. First, clip 1, the original with the bass "subdued" somewhat. Could not reduce the bass too much or the kick would disappear, Clip 2, me playing bass using JamUp and the Blue Line. Clip 3 is the K800. Clip 4 is the B15. Clip 5 is the Red. I thing any of these sims will sound just fine for any os the recording I'm likely to do.

SoundCloud Clip:
http://snd.sc/Vkjol6

You are correct in the fact that any of these tones would and has worked well in your mix. But I also agree with rip that it was hard to distinguish between the different tones because everything else in the mix was very much prominent. It was kinda drowning out the bass so much, as rip was saying that the bass needed to be more prominent not that the bass needed to be the most dominant. You definitely were not playing solo bass part.
I think rip would agree that being bass players we want to hear that bass more than where you had it in the mix..... But a well done mix though. The rest of the mix was beautiful.

[Rip Topaz]

Originally Posted by adambomb

You are correct in the fact that any of these tones would and has worked well in your mix. But I also agree with rip that it was hard to distinguish between the different tones because everything else in the mix was very much prominent. It was kinda drowning out the bass so much, as rip was saying that the bass needed to be more prominent not that the bass needed to be the most dominant. You definitely were not playing solo bass part.
I think rip would agree that being bass players we want to hear that bass more than where you had it in the mix..... But a well done mix though. The rest of the mix was beautiful.

Exactly. For our purposes here, having the bass towards the front of the mix helps. Obviously this won't work in a live mix, but for the sake of this thread lets HEAR it. Give a listen to some of Duke21's clips as an example. He did a great play along with Tom Sawyer by Rush, and even though his bass was louder in the mix (on purpose), you could really tell that it would work in a mix if you lowered it to the proper level.

Great tones, nonetheless, and they DO fit perfectly in the mix.

[Rip Topaz]

Here's the link to the Rush tune that Duke21 did, so you can see what we mean.
http://soundcloud.com/duke21/rush-pl...jamup-audiobus

[PrietoBass]

Is it possible to upload tunes to SoundCloud w/o violating any copyrights or user agreement?

I'd love to attempt something like that.

[Rip Topaz]

Originally Posted by PrietoBass

Is it possible to upload tunes to SoundCloud w/o violating any copyrights or user agreement?

I'd love to attempt something like that.

That's what Duke did, and I've got one in the works as well. There's millions of cover songs on Soundcloud.

[nick98338]

Originally Posted by Rip Topaz

Exactly. For our purposes here, having the bass towards the front of the mix helps. Obviously this won't work in a live mix, but for the sake of this thread lets HEAR it. Give a listen to some of Duke21's clips as an example. He did a great play along with Tom Sawyer by Rush, and even though his bass was louder in the mix (on purpose), you could really tell that it would work in a mix if you lowered it to the proper level.

Great tones, nonetheless, and they DO fit perfectly in the mix.

OK. I understand. When I mix up some stuff for the folks here, I'll bring the bass up in the mix. Thanks.

[Duke21]

Originally Posted by Rip Topaz

That's what Duke did, and I've got one in the works as well. There's millions of cover songs on Soundcloud.

When I upload a cover with the original in the mix I disable the download on those songs, so nobody could just download the song for whatever us. Otherwise some bands/ companies protect their material so you can not upload a cover song even if you wants to. The Killers are an example. So I do not upload a cover of The Killers with the original in the background.

[adambomb]

At Christmas party right now........ugh......stuffed.......

About to take .........ugh......turkey......ugh......coma......z zzzzzzzz

Duke did you try the PBDDI to itrack yet?

[adambomb]

For anyone interested AT version 2.8.1 now available for iPad and iPhone......supposed to fix the crash on startup problems

[BluesMan845]

I'm still trying to catch up on all the posts.. still on page 11.. SLOW DOWN !!

Anyway, just jumping up to last page to let everyone know Positive Grids' FB page states that all expansion packs are on sale @7.99 right now... other sales listed also so check it out


Going back to pg 11 now

[BluesMan845]

Just downloaded MT DAW to test Prietobass's method of recording JamUp with DAW without Audiobus.. my finding are that it doesn't actually record the output of Jamup but records the raw input of my bass from the audio interface.

Am I missing something on how to do this without Audiobus? I have JamUp running in background mode and then switch to DAW and record. I made sure to have a delay running in JU so there would be no mistake where the audio recording came from and it definitely had no delay on it so it's coming from the audio interface and not the output of JU..

I'm still working my way through this thread and I'm now on page 14 so apologies if this was covered