The iOS bass player thread, PART II. (Jamup XT, Audiobus, Multitrack DAW and more)

[steve_rolfeca]

Originally Posted by thebassbuilder

I am using iRIg for the interface but not sure how that could make the tone change when opening another app.

It can if it affects input or output levels. Getting the best s/n and frequency response with the iRig is something of a balancing act...

I would still expect that it's more likely to be something going on between the apps.

IIRC, other people have mentioned occasionally needing to stop and restart apps in a particular sequence when running MTDAW and Audiobus.

[thebassbuilder]

Originally Posted by Evangelos

Hello people, I'm Evangelos from Greece.Rip Topaz told me about this forum.Im into iOS music making,using Apogee Jam ,jamup xt pro ,audiobus ,all the good stuff
There is a small detail ,im not a bassist ,only guitarist.I hope im welcome here.
I do believe in the greatness of bass players,they re the backbone of any band. Glad to have found you.Rock on

Welcome aboard! You can help us when trying to get a good guitar tone from our apps.

[adambomb]

Originally Posted by Evangelos

Hello people, I'm Evangelos from Greece.Rip Topaz told me about this forum.Im into iOS music making,using Apogee Jam ,jamup xt pro ,audiobus ,all the good stuff
There is a small detail ,im not a bassist ,only guitarist.I hope im welcome here.
I do believe in the greatness of bass players,they re the backbone of any band. Glad to have found you.Rock on

Welcome Evangelos,
We not only need guitarists on this thread but keyboardist and drumers and vocalist too. the more then merrier.

[Rip Topaz]

Originally Posted by thebassbuilder

I am using iRIg for the interface but not sure how that could make the tone change when opening another app.

It makes a difference in the sound through Audiobus for some reason. I had the same problem when I was using the Irig. My bass volume was fine in Jamup, but the volume dropped as soon as I added MTDAW to the chain.

Did you check the real source button in MT to make sure it's on Jamup and not mic?

[Rip Topaz]

Originally Posted by Evangelos

Hello people, I'm Evangelos from Greece.Rip Topaz told me about this forum.Im into iOS music making,using Apogee Jam ,jamup xt pro ,audiobus ,all the good stuff
There is a small detail ,im not a bassist ,only guitarist.I hope im welcome here.
I do believe in the greatness of bass players,they re the backbone of any band. Glad to have found you.Rock on

Glad you could make it!!

Check back often. Things move pretty fast around here!!

[thebassbuilder]

I will say Audiobus does have some glitches and I did see where Rip I think made the comment that it is a new app and they are still working on it. But it is a great app regardless. Now if i can just figure out how to work mtDaw better I will be happy.

One other app question when using Loopy (which I do not have yet) in mtDAW can you streach the loop out as far as you want say 3.5 minutes? I tried copy and paste of a loop I made in Easybeats2 and when pasted it was just the small loop and it would not strech and I could not get it to slide into place and then just paste more and more of the sample.

[thebassbuilder]

Originally Posted by Rip Topaz

It makes a difference in the sound through Audiobus for some reason. I had the same problem when I was using the Irig. My bass volume was fine in Jamup, but the volume dropped as soon as I added MTDAW to the chain.

Did you check the real source button in MT to make sure it's on Jamup and not mic?

It was on jamup. Maybe it having the process the sound more than once if it is, makes the difference, just like running a signal through multiple effects even if they are not activated.

I will have to keep messing with it.

[Rip Topaz]

Originally Posted by thebassbuilder

One other app question when using Loopy (which I do not have yet) in mtDAW can you streach the loop out as far as you want say 3.5 minutes? I tried copy and paste of a loop I made in Easybeats2 and when pasted it was just the small loop and it would not strech and I could not get it to slide into place and then just paste more and more of the sample.

I haven't really played around with changing the timing of the loops. Didn't know they could be stretched.

DM1 does a good job at this because it allows you to export the loop via Audiocopy/paste. By doing it this way, it's pretty easy to get things lined up.

Your first loop is the "master" loop. If you use the metronome sometimes it makes it easier, though I'm not sure if it'll bleed into your track with the Irig.

[thebassbuilder]

by streching I mean once you copy/paste the loop/sample in the track you can drag one side of it and it will re-loop it over and over across the track. So it will be a loop for as many minutes and seconds that you want in the track. I could do this in Reason and Acid before that computer died on me . At this point it looks like I will have to copy paste a 2 second loop 105 times in a 3.5 minute song (I think)?

[thebassbuilder]

Ok I do not know why I did not thin of this sooner but I have my phone right beside me. So I went in to mtDAW and I have to copy/paste the sample the 105 times but I figured out how to slide them where I need it. So that part I am now good on.

[Rip Topaz]

You can import it to Loopy, then have Loopy playing while you record it in MTDAW. That's how I do my drums (so far), by building it in DM1 and then letting Loopy handle the rest.

[Duke21]

My main project for now:
http://soundcloud.com/duke21/the-circle-draft-3

[thebassbuilder]

Originally Posted by Rip Topaz

You can import it to Loopy, then have Loopy playing while you record it in MTDAW. That's how I do my drums (so far), by building it in DM1 and then letting Loopy handle the rest.

I may do that because loopy is suported in easeybeats. So if you do what you are saying just run the sample through Loopy then record it for as long as you want in mtDAW? Loopy just becomes the sound source for that track?

[PrietoBass]

Originally Posted by Rip Topaz

Today's offering to the legacy of Duke21.
http://soundcloud.com/rip_topaz/dist...-mix-2/s-bMwEG

Cool!

[PrietoBass]

Originally Posted by Evangelos

Hello people, I'm Evangelos from Greece.Rip Topaz told me about this forum.Im into iOS music making,using Apogee Jam ,jamup xt pro ,audiobus ,all the good stuff
There is a small detail ,im not a bassist ,only guitarist.I hope im welcome here.
I do believe in the greatness of bass players,they re the backbone of any band. Glad to have found you.Rock on

Welcome!

[BluesMan845]

Originally Posted by thebassbuilder

I am using iRIg for the interface but not sure how that could make the tone change when opening another app.

Maybe the levels could change as Rip and Steve have reported but I believe there is something going on when MTDAW/JamUp try to play together using Audiobus. Rip had mentioned you might need to start up MTDAW and JAMUP and then start up Audiobus to avoid a potential glitch.

I had trouble trying to record using MTDAW and Jamup with Audiobus. My sound changed a bit also. I'm also using the iRig like you. I recorded some stuff last night into Garageband on my Mac with the iRig into iPhone and Jamup. There were no problems with signal or the sound changing so my opinion is it's something going on between apps. Either caused by AudioBus or MTDAW.

[Rip Topaz]

Originally Posted by thebassbuilder

I may do that because loopy is suported in easeybeats. So if you do what you are saying just run the sample through Loopy then record it for as long as you want in mtDAW? Loopy just becomes the sound source for that track?

Exactly. And you're not limited to just running one beat like I've done so far. You've got up to 12 loops available, use em. Program a different beat for choruses, pre choruses, breakdowns....

It would take some practice and some serious prep work, but if you can get into the mindset of playing Loopy like an instrument, and record it in MTDAW,you have one badass machine.

[Rip Topaz]

Regarding the "glitch", the fix is easy.

Open all your apps, then minimize them.

Open Audiobus and make your connections. Minimize Audiobus and forget about it.

Switch between apps the old fashioned way.

[Duke21]

Originally Posted by Rip Topaz

Today's offering to the legacy of Duke21.
http://soundcloud.com/rip_topaz/dist...-mix-2/s-bMwEG

Thanks! I'm speechless. Very nice tune! Liked the fast notes by the very end, incognito but still they were there!

[Rip Topaz]

Originally Posted by Duke21

Thanks! I'm speechless. Very nice tune! Liked the fast notes by the very end, incognito but still they were there!

Thanks. It was hard to keep myself under control throughout the song but I knew I had a spot at the end where the guitars would cover most of it.