The iOS bass player thread, PART II. (Jamup XT, Audiobus, Multitrack DAW and more)

[PrietoBass]

Originally Posted by steve_rolfeca

True, but the material will be derivative, and my playing will suck, so there's still hope for everybody else...

Only tone will (should) be judged.

Adam is chair to the "bassists that suck" club, and my standards are so low I don't qualify even to that club! Let that be your reference.

Just be you!

[Evangelos]

Originally Posted by Rip Topaz

That's the thing that's intriguing me about Garageband. I've been using DM1 to build my drum tracks, and unless you take the time to build a million loops, then arrange them into a song, then you're stuck playing to a sterile beat.

Problem is that when I get a song idea, I want to get right to playing. I don't want to take a day just to make the drums because by that time, I've lost the original idea and everything becomes sterile and the song is gone.

If I can build my drum parts quickly and then export them to MTDAW, then the workflow speeds up and I'm back in business.

I play drums, so being able to arrange the drum parts as fast as possible is very important to me. DM1 is great, and has its place, but I prefer a much more "live" approach.

GB has three kits (apart from the techno/house drum machine), both programmable and free style.Vintage, rock kit and live rock kit.Of course it has limitations , i mean you cant change the BPM (well you can ,but it takes so long going back and forth and importing stuff), but you can program the drums to play faster and slower and keeping the same BPM. I ll post a track at the end of my post to see the example.

Originally Posted by Duke21

Sounds like Eric Clapton to me!!!!
Are you a bass player or are you a guitar or keyboard player?

I' m a guitar player , you can say i m a completely amateur keyboard player since i often write songs on keyboard first. GB has smart instruments and it gives me the ability to compose my chords on the piano,since i only know very few chords on piano. I dont read music, but i know scales,modes,a bit of theory, and progressions.I learnt to solo a bit on piano from GB as well.Thank you for the compliment !

Originally Posted by Duke21

Drumjam is audiobus compatible.
That said, I am not a drummer and it is easier for me to program DM1 then play live drums on GB or Drumjam.

Originally Posted by Rip Topaz

I'll check out Drumjam. Maybe that's more what I'm after.

Honestly, the best program I've ever used for drums was ACID Pro, but there's no such animal in the iOS world.

I bought Drumjam because of the audiobus compatibility, i used it only once or twice.I ve unistalled it. It is focused on exotic sounds, percussion, it's got these indian kits and stuff, plus i didnt like the sound of the rock kits, it sounded plastic and artificial. Of course you can play free style, but for me since i program my drums, its a no go..

https://soundcloud.com/evagelos-koudonas/november-noon
i suck in vocals, lyrics written by a best friend about a love affair gone bad. I really like the drums on this, i played a bit free style some moments to enhance the sound.
All made in GB and then polished on MTDAW

[Rip Topaz]

Cool tune!! Is that a tele?

Based on all of this (I don't need exotic percussion either.) I'll be getting Garageband first, then Drumjam.

As primarily a ROCK player, the percussion sounds are very much secondary for me. I prefer to be able to build actual rock beats, and maybe add the bongos later!!

Guess I'll do a bit more research before committing but GB seems to be the way to go for getting a song up and running quickly. Even if I just build my beats in GB, then save the track and export to MTDAW, I should be able to get a song mapped out pretty quickly.

Hmm.. So many choices sometimes slows you down more than the limitations!! The iOS music making world being so new is definitely making this all very entertaining!!

[Evangelos]

Originally Posted by Rip Topaz

Cool tune!! Is that a tele?

Based on all of this (I don't need exotic percussion either.) I'll be getting Garageband first, then Drumjam.

As primarily a ROCK player, the percussion sounds are very much secondary for me. I prefer to be able to build actual rock beats, and maybe add the bongos later!!

Guess I'll do a bit more research before committing but GB seems to be the way to go for getting a song up and running quickly. Even if I just build my beats in GB, then save the track and export to MTDAW, I should be able to get a song mapped out pretty quickly.

Hmm.. So many choices sometimes slows you down more than the limitations!! The iOS music making world being so new is definitely making this all very entertaining!!

A Tele indeed!
Yeah,you build your drum tracks,jam with your bass (jamup) with GB playing in the background and export your Gb drums to MTDAW and record with audiobus.
And i completely agree with your last comment for ios music

[Duke21]

Originally Posted by Evangelos

A Tele indeed!
Yeah,you build your drum tracks,jam with your bass (jamup) with GB playing in the background and export your Gb drums to MTDAW and record with audiobus.
And i completely agree with your last comment for ios music

It's a Tele, and sounds like Clapton!

[adambomb]

Originally Posted by PrietoBass

Only tone will (should) be judged.

Adam is chair to the "bassists that suck" club, and my standards are so low I don't qualify even to that club! Let that be your reference.

Just be you!

What!?!?!??!?! LOL
Is that a compliment or a burn....LOL
Ok yeah I suck.....and it takes one to know one right?

[Duke21]

Originally Posted by adambomb

What!?!?!??!?! LOL
Is that a compliment or a burn....LOL
Ok yeah I suck.....and it takes one to know one right?

Prieto said you are the chair of the bassist that sucks club, but he didn't say you suck as a bass player. It just seems that it sucks to be a chair for that club!

[Duke21]

I must say Prieto shocks us from time to time. Who knows he might be one of the co writers of Seinfeld!

[PrietoBass]

Originally Posted by adambomb

What!?!?!??!?! LOL
Is that a compliment or a burn....LOL
Ok yeah I suck.....and it takes one to know one right?

There must be a misunderstanding...

There seems to be another "Adam Bomb", founder of the "Mediocre Bassists Club"...

His profile is here.
And the "sucky"... er,"mediocre" thread is here.

So, I though Adam (our "virtual" Adam), had created that thread. Now we know it must have been Adam's (our virtual "Adam") alter ego.

But seriously Adam, I meant no offense. What I meant to say is that I don't qualify for the "mediocre" club, not because I'm above it (but the opposite). However, the bass is just a hobby for me and I'm already getting out of it what I wanted to get out of it (connection point with my kid). I have no illusions, and no reputation (real or virtual) to maintain.

People are encouraged to participate on the cook-off regardless of skill; it's meant to be fun.

[PrietoBass]

The above post just got me thinking...

I'll create a 3rd category: "Suckiest bassist that tried."

I know that I'll win that category hands down, and as Prieto Virtual Hot-Sounds Cook-Off Executive Producer, etc, etc, (and all the rest) and I hereby proclaim myself "winner-in-advance".

The prize? I'm thinking a few books and/or videos from BassBooks.com, or a MXR M288 octaver, or a combination of the above.

[Rip Topaz]

Here's an update to my practice setup pic, this time taken on my wife's phone so I could include Jamup in the pic (even though it got washed out and you really can't see it!!)

This setup is PERFECT for my new acoustic project. Everything I need is within reach. All I need to do now is upgrade my seat. The folding chair I'm using right now isn't very friendly to my back.

[Rip Topaz]

Jamup update at midnight!! This is the one we've been waiting for.

Multiple effects in all groups!!
Audiobus now in ANY slot; input, effect, OR output!!

11 New amp models!!

Also some more midi controls,and delays effects BPM sync.

[Rip Topaz]

So now Duke will be able to run multiple gain pedals in Jamup, open Audiobus and send Jamup into itself, then into itself again!!

Should finally be enough gain even for Duke 21!!

[Rip Topaz]

[Rip Topaz]

The new Jamup update is here!!!

Something really cool that Calvin didn't tell us about is the addition of Bluetooth support for Airturn!!

Yup, we can now turn effects on and off hands free!!

(Wow, I'm yelling a lot!!)

If anyone figures out how to add multiple pedals from each group, please post. I haven't found it yet.

The whole layout has changed. It looks great!! Can't wait till morning so I can plug in and check it out.

Great job Calvin (and the rest of Positive Grid)!!!

[Rip Topaz]

Ok, I figured it out. When you double tap each pedal, on the left are a few little circles, below the selections. Press it, and it opens up the ability to change the pedal group and add your other pedal.

Looks like we give up one slot to dedicate it to another, I guess that's how to describe it. Not a problem, as far as I see it.

Cool application of this.

Now, to order the Airturn switch. The system suggested is $159. Yay, new tax time toy!!!

[Duke21]

Originally Posted by Rip Topaz

Cool tune!! Is that a tele?

Based on all of this (I don't need exotic percussion either.) I'll be getting Garageband first, then Drumjam.

As primarily a ROCK player, the percussion sounds are very much secondary for me. I prefer to be able to build actual rock beats, and maybe add the bongos later!!

Guess I'll do a bit more research before committing but GB seems to be the way to go for getting a song up and running quickly. Even if I just build my beats in GB, then save the track and export to MTDAW, I should be able to get a song mapped out pretty quickly.

Hmm.. So many choices sometimes slows you down more than the limitations!! The iOS music making world being so new is definitely making this all very entertaining!!

Not only percussion on Drumjam, but there are at least 3 drum kits on the live drums section based on some "known" drummers. I've never heard of them but then I do not listen to Maiden, Kiss, AC/DC etc so my knowledge outside prog rock is limited...

[Duke21]

Originally Posted by Rip Topaz

The new Jamup update is here!!!

Something really cool that Calvin didn't tell us about is the addition of Bluetooth support for Airturn!!

Yup, we can now turn effects on and off hands free!!

(Wow, I'm yelling a lot!!)

If anyone figures out how to add multiple pedals from each group, please post. I haven't found it yet.

The whole layout has changed. It looks great!! Can't wait till morning so I can plug in and check it out.

Great job Calvin (and the rest of Positive Grid)!!!

No update in Norway yet!

Edit: had to manually search for Jamup, then I could see that I could update it!
Damn but I've to go to work now.... The endless gain will have to wait!

[Duke21]

Originally Posted by Rip Topaz

The new Jamup update is here!!!

Something really cool that Calvin didn't tell us about is the addition of Bluetooth support for Airturn!!

Yup, we can now turn effects on and off hands free!!

(Wow, I'm yelling a lot!!)

If anyone figures out how to add multiple pedals from each group, please post. I haven't found it yet.

The whole layout has changed. It looks great!! Can't wait till morning so I can plug in and check it out.

Great job Calvin (and the rest of Positive Grid)!!!

You forgot to mention that several amps have been updated, Redhead, Blueline and the GK, added controls, Same goes for the JCM800 the OR30 and several other guitar amps, added controls such as channel choice etc. !!!

[Rip Topaz]

Yeah, I posted that before I really went exploring.

Wow. Ampli-who??