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Even my wife noticed the difference in sound quality.

Of course, I played her two tracks. One with Irig (lol. The missing bass clip!!) and the one I did with the Blueline.

Her first question: You waited this long to buy the Jam, why???
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LOL!

Actually, I vote for AaronMB to run with this... look at it as a $10 experiment that will benefit the iOS community, and if it works people can buy that instead of the iRig to get started (w/o having to spend > $50 for other options).

There's only one way to know...
I thought you might like that
Go for it!!!!!! With the powered ampkit interface it might be awesome!!!!

Why not?
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:46 PM
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Long layoff from TB, was looking for a good iPad setup. From this thread, sub'd, ordered the Apogee Jam, and picked up Loop HD, MT DAW, Audiobus, and Jamup Pro w/BT15. All set and just waiting for the Jam to arrive. Woot!

Great thread guys! Very good detail here - especially attentive to Rip Topaz. Nice job man. Thanks!
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Even my wife noticed the difference in sound quality.

Of course, I played her two tracks. One with Irig (lol. The missing bass clip!!) and the one I did with the Blueline.

Her first question: You waited this long to buy the Jam, why???
You didn't tell her that you haven't finalized the Swiss bank account program?
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Long layoff from TB, was looking for a good iPad setup. From this thread, sub'd, ordered the Apogee Jam, and picked up Loop HD, MT DAW, Audiobus, and Jamup Pro w/BT15. All set and just waiting for the Jam to arrive. Woot!

Great thread guys! Very good detail here - especially attentive to Rip Topaz. Nice job man. Thanks!
Welcome!! You're gonna LOVE the Jam. I can't put it down!!

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You didn't tell her that you haven't finalized the Swiss bank account program?
Now WHY would I tell her about the Swiss account?? I'm gonna need that later, when the kids finally drive me crazy and I run away!!
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Old 01-08-2013, 06:20 AM
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The jam is a digital interface which converts analog signal to digital signal. While that jack to USB thing you show up here might be a decent A/D or not. My bet, very limited. And I'm not sure at all how the gain structure will be between the Ampkit link, the converter, and the iDevice.
I'm quite sure Steve could come with better answer.
These days, the trend is one-chip solutions for just about everything. There's a good chance that whatever is in that little USB dongle, is the same as what's in all sorts of cheap sound cards, etc.

Since it seems to be sold without software or drivers, there's at least a chance that it's USB class compliant. Not having a hardware gain control, it might be tricky with high-output pickups.

Assuming that it works, it's not going to sound as good or be as flexible as an iTrack or a Jam, but it might sound decent. Like the old Stealthplug, maybe?

If nothing else, it might be a cheap and unobtrusive way to add an 1/8" audio input to the latest MacBook Pro's, now that Apple decided to ditch the input jack.

The biggest hitch that I see for IOS, is that you need a $40 CCK before you can even test it...

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Given that the cck is yet another connector and $40, I'd still do the $60 Riffport off Amazon. I haven't tried the Jam and probably won't a the Riffport sounds nice. If I need better sound quality there is my DAW setup downstairs...
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These days, the trend is one-chip solutions for just about everything. There's a good chance that whatever is in that little USB dongle, is the same as what's in all sorts of cheap sound cards, etc.

Since it seems to be sold without software or drivers, there's at least a chance that it's USB class compliant. Not having a hardware gain control, it might be tricky with high-output pickups.

Assuming that it works, it's not going to sound as good or be as flexible as an iTrack or a Jam, but it might sound decent. Like the old Stealthplug, maybe?

If nothing else, it might be a cheap and unobtrusive way to add an 1/8" audio input to the latest MacBook Pro's, now that Apple decided to ditch the input jack.

The biggest hitch that I see for IOS, is that you need a $40 CCK before you can even test it...
All the new macs have the combo jack now right? for the three prong 1/8" headphone/mic jack so everyone can enjoy there irig.
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Old 01-08-2013, 08:14 AM
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The biggest hitch that I see for IOS, is that you need a $40 CCK before you can even test it...
Indeed. That part is already covered, fortunately.
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Given that the cck is yet another connector and $40, I'd still do the $60 Riffport off Amazon. I haven't tried the Jam and probably won't a the Riffport sounds nice. If I need better sound quality there is my DAW setup downstairs...
I have a DAW right downstairs myself, but these amp models can't be used if I'm stuck with the quality of the Irig (or any other headphone jack interface).

My current setup is a combination of both. I can use the amp models in Jamup with either MTDAW (without going downstairs) or my main DAW. They work great either way, can't say the same if Irig is in the chain.
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for the three prong 1/8" headphone/mic jack so everyone can enjoy there irig.
I hope the sarcasm came across
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I hope the sarcasm came across
It took me a second and then I was like, "Hey, wait a second!! I see what he did there!!"
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You've got to be kidding me!!

http://www.ikmultimedia.com/news/events/?item_id=1978

Seriously?
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You've got to be kidding me!!

http://www.ikmultimedia.com/news/events/?item_id=1978

Seriously?
Shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.

The iRig, Line 6 Mobile In, and Apogee Jam are all on the shelf at local Apple Stores. That means a potential market of millions of shoppers.

Given the relatively small price spread from iRig to Mobile In to Jam, they had to do something to stay in the game...
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I guess I just expected it to LOOK a little different than the Jam.

I've given up on IK doing anything truly innovative for iOS. It just doesn't seem to be something they really care about. But outright stealing another companies design? Come on, that's just wrong!!

I'm sure someone from IK will be along to say that they've been working on this for 20 years before Apogee even came around, or to just deny that it's anything like the Jam.

But the pix don't lie.
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The iRig HD look like an ApoRig.
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They could've at least made theirs to look like a stomp or something not a copycat apogee
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IK should change their motto.
Instead of IK: Musicians First, which is just laughable, it should be IK: We Didn't Do It First But We'll Tell Everyone We Did.

I'd be willing to bet we see Brian soon to claim that this is somehow better than the Apogee because of some great nanotechnology that makes it sound just like the real thing.

Sorry, I'm losin' it over here!!
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You've got to be kidding me!!

http://www.ikmultimedia.com/news/events/?item_id=1978

Seriously?
Kinda reminds me of the AmpKit HD that was announced last year, and was to be released early 2012???
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