The iOS bass player thread, PART II. (Jamup XT, Audiobus, Multitrack DAW and more)

[Rip Topaz]

I've only ever used Jamup to record guitars so I can't vouch for the noise, but I know that with my acoustic/electric (guitar) through the Jam into Jamup, I get zero noise.
Of course, I don't really have any guitar oriented stuff in Jamup...

[Duke21]

Well I've tried some stuff in Ampkit yesterday, but I'm too used to Jamup and zero noise now, Ampkit was noisy on high gain amps. Earlier both Amplitube and Amplit were noisy and Jamup was not something to consider, now it is all different. The noise in Ampkit and Amplitube are not possible to live with!!!

[Rip Topaz]

Originally Posted by Duke21

Well I've tried some stuff in Ampkit yesterday, but I'm too used to Jamup and zero noise now, Ampkit was noisy on high gain amps. Earlier both Amplitube and Amplit were noisy and Jamup was not something to consider, now it is all different. The noise in Ampkit and Amplitube are not possible to live with!!!

I'm so used to Jamup's way of doing things that any of the other sims just slow me down. With Jamup, I know where everything is, so I can make music instead of looking for what I need to make the tone I'm after.

[Evangelos]

Originally Posted by Duke21

Well, the marked department do need to use their strongest argument which is the selling chart. Good for them, good for the guitar players, I assume, I do not play guitar.
Actually, both Ampkit and Amplitube have excessive noise when running a hot guitar amp, so I can't think a guitar player is totally fine with that, unless he doesn't take the app seriously!

Amplitube compared to both Jamup and Ampkit loses big time.The guitar sound is very thin.
Duke i disagree about the noise on Ampkit. I get crystal clear crunchy sounds on my setups.Of course i ll get noise if i use too much distortion,but that happens in Jamup too.And its because my guitar has single coil pickups.Ampkit has quality sounds but for now i only use it for practise until they make it compatible with audiobus.

[Evangelos]

Now on a completely different matter, im becoming very confused on which app to buy,since now we have a massive wave of "serious" apps compatible with Audiobus.Im totally lost between Cubasis and Auria,i guess its the price of having many apps available..

[Rip Topaz]

You can't go wrong with Multitrack DAW. Easy to use, works with Audiobus. Doesn't have a ton of features but it's very much usable.

[Evangelos]

Yes absolutely, MTDAW is great.

[Duke21]

Originally Posted by Evangelos

Amplitube compared to both Jamup and Ampkit loses big time.The guitar sound is very thin.
Duke i disagree about the noise on Ampkit. I get crystal clear crunchy sounds on my setups.Of course i ll get noise if i use too much distortion,but that happens in Jamup too.And its because my guitar has single coil pickups.Ampkit has quality sounds but for now i only use it for practise until they make it compatible with audiobus.

I use bass on guitar amps, I've no guitar, so I've to push the amp quite much to get good tone.

[Duke21]

Originally Posted by Evangelos

Amplitube compared to both Jamup and Ampkit loses big time.The guitar sound is very thin.
Duke i disagree about the noise on Ampkit. I get crystal clear crunchy sounds on my setups.Of course i ll get noise if i use too much distortion,but that happens in Jamup too.And its because my guitar has single coil pickups.Ampkit has quality sounds but for now i only use it for practise until they make it compatible with audiobus.

Actually you might be right, there is a reason Ampkit was noisy yesterday with my bass. I connected my iPad to my bass with the iTrack, and Ampkit do not support 2 channels. So I've to go through the mic input using my BDDI as a DI. As both the iTrack and the BDDI have to get power from the network, so what I got was this noise due to electro network/ grounding issue. I recall no noise with my Apogee Jam and Ampkit. Still, I get MUCH less noise with the Jamup no matter how I connect it to the bass.

[Duke21]

Originally Posted by Rip Topaz

You can't go wrong with Multitrack DAW. Easy to use, works with Audiobus. Doesn't have a ton of features but it's very much usable.

Auria is more powerful on the paper but require iPad 3 or 4 for use with Audiobus. With no Audiobus you will need to buy Jamup again within Auria to make it work, out of the question for me!

[Rip Topaz]

I'm using the Jam to connect, and even with the highest gain settings in Jamup I get zero noise.
In fact, I haven't had to use ANY noise filters at all since getting the Jam.

[Rip Topaz]

Here's a clip I recorded this morning with the B15 in Jamup.

I used my single coil P-bass for this. It's wearing year old Chromes, and they've really aged well. The tone control is all the way open.

http://soundcloud.com/rip_topaz/jamu...tone-wide-open

I was going for an old school vibe with this, something that will go well with acoustic guitars when we play the old stuff. I think I nailed it.

[Evangelos]

Its the single coil pickups on my tele.I get some noise if i realy crank it up and push it to its limits when i use them on their own.When i use them both (middle position) i get no noise and i dont use noise filter as well in this position.
Auria is now Audiobus compatible.I have the ipad3,but still it will be laggy if i push it too much,as i ve read.

[Evangelos]

Originally Posted by Rip Topaz

Here's a clip I recorded this morning with the B15 in Jamup.

I used my single coil P-bass for this. It's wearing year old Chromes, and they've really aged well. The tone control is all the way open.

http://soundcloud.com/rip_topaz/jamu...tone-wide-open

I was going for an old school vibe with this, something that will go well with acoustic guitars when we play the old stuff. I think I nailed it.

Yes you did nail it

[Rip Topaz]

I'm gonna do the same riff and back off on the tone and see if it's better.

[Rip Topaz]

FYI, Guitarism is on sale today for $1.99 (normally $4.99). It's a REALLY good sounding guitar simulator.

I've been playing with it and it seems to be very useful. Audiobus support is there and it sounds awesome with Jamup.

[tombowlus]

Originally Posted by Duke21

Well, the marked department do need to use their strongest argument which is the selling chart. Good for them, good for the guitar players, I assume, I do not play guitar.
Actually, both Ampkit and Amplitube have excessive noise when running a hot guitar amp, so I can't think a guitar player is totally fine with that, unless he doesn't take the app seriously!

That should get better with the HD versions of both AmpKit and iRig. I think a lot of that noise is from going through the mic/headphone jack.

[AaronMB]

Originally Posted by Rip Topaz

Anyone having latency issues or any weirdness since the latest Audiobus update?

I had some strangeness with the Apogee Jam connecting through Audiobus (using the audio input as always), it also connected the microphone, causing some nasty feedback.

Shutting everything down and restarting fixed it, but it was a panic moment when my iPhone started screaming at me!!

This is the only recent post I've found mention any issues so I'm quoting it here...

I hadn't used JamUp or AudioBus in a while and when I did, they both had updates.

I updated both and I'm getting feedback with AudioBus and JamUp...and that's when they decide to 'work' together (with MTDaw as the output, as well, for the record). AudioBus and JamUp now won't work together most of the time.

If I shut everything down and manually load MTDaw, then JamUp, then AudioBus, I am sometimes allowed to load JamUp in the Input and Effects slots in AudioBus but all I get is feedback. The feedback is minimized if I turn off an amp in JamUp; if I activate an amp (any amp) it boosts a consistent digital-like stuttering feedback kind of noise. I also get feedback with JamUp in the Input, only.

This is only with AudioBus and JamUp. Any other app as an input source (Loopy or DM1, for example) in AudioBus works as it should. JamUp sounds find on its own.

I can recreate this on an iPad 1 (iOS 5) and iPad 2 (iOS 6). I've tried every combination of opening programs. I've deleted and re-installed apps. I've shut down/restarted the devices. I don't get it. The only change in hardware/software has been the app updates.

[adambomb]

Well even with a digital interface there is still noise there in AT then I go into jamup and clear and clean. It has something to do with the cab/mic sim in AT. They do have that correct. When you mic a cab with a real world amp especially an older tube amp pushing a good amount of wattage there is real world hiss but most sound engineers know how to deal with that. The problem is that IK shouldn't put that in there it is a true to life sound of a mic'ed cab but they should not do that. That is the biggest complaint to everyone that uses the APP. I've even bypassed the amp cab mic portion and the hiss went away (just using pedals). It is a huge annoyance!!!! When the latest update (before the drums 0.o) came out with the Hendrix bundle. I bought the dual showman. Awesome sounding!!!!!!! The hiss, after using jamup with zero hiss, was driving me insane. As good as the dual showman sounded with its 2x15 cab, I haven't been back to it because of the unbearable hiss built in the the amp sim. It drove me mad.

[adambomb]

1000 BAM!!!!!!