The iOS Bass Players Thread Part III (Jamup XT, Audiobus, Multitrack DAW and MORE!!) - Page 2

vin*tone · #21 02-05-2013, 08:29 PM

Straight in Adam, no sims on the bass. Its really just a sketch book so there's not much fluffin around.

Rip Topaz · #22 02-05-2013, 08:33 PM

It's weird that you mention that "sparkle" in my clip, because its my single coil P. It's a cheap copy of a 54 P, but still gets that tone very well.

vin*tone · #23 02-05-2013, 08:35 PM

Just a word on Garageband - I'm lovin every aspect of it bar ONE thing. You can't have decimals on your tempo, only increment in whole numbers. When working with drum loops this will drift out of time. I'm finding workarounds as I go, however. You need to make sure you get your temp as close as possible, then snip the loop to 1 or 2 bars before looping.

This is just one small niggle, I highly recommend it for ipad users.

adambomb · #24 02-05-2013, 08:40 PM

This was from the end of the last thread but it locked down before i could respond

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Originally Posted by Duke21

I like MT DAW much better then the 8 track recorder in AT, in ever aspect. The 8 track recorder on AT have one strong point which I miss in MT DAW, and it is the possibility to re-amp a track.

a re-amp in MTD would be sweet maybe if you could record a dry track in MTD and use Jamup as the effect....does it work like that? i dont have MTD yet so i couldnt try it. that really is the only great thing of the Recorder on AT you can listen to the same track and make it better and better by tweaking the settings. but beyond that it sucks! its just a "recorder" and thats it you cant even move one track forwards or backwards to match up to another track, time wise. if its off in any sense of the word thats it. there is no editability beyond the re-amping thing.

adambomb · #25 02-05-2013, 08:42 PM

i love GB for so many reasons. it would be the best on IOS to me if it only had Audiobus support

adambomb · #26 02-05-2013, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by vin*tone

Straight in Adam, no sims on the bass. Its really just a sketch book so there's not much fluffin around.

Great Direct sound.....Have you tried JAMUP XT?

vin*tone · #27 02-05-2013, 09:12 PM

^^ No I'm not much of an effects user but If I could bus it in to GB that would be interesting. I do have an FEA comp and VT bass - I might play with that pre Apogee.

Interestingly I prefer recording into the ipad to my imac/Logic. The sound is cleaner - I seem to have some kind of AC noise coming through my mains connected recording devices.

vin*tone · #28 02-05-2013, 09:15 PM

Have any of you guys sorted a good drum loop --> Audiobus --> MT solution?

AaronMB · #29 02-05-2013, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by vin*tone

Have any of you guys sorted a good drum loop --> Audiobus --> MT solution?

DM1 and Loopy is the popular choice here: DM1 to create the beat and Loopy to loop it into Audiobus. Both work with Audiobus.

vin*tone · #30 02-05-2013, 10:58 PM

Gee they look great! Good times...

My singer uses Funkbox.......Pros/Cons? What's the consensus?

Duke21 · #31 02-06-2013, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Rip Topaz

14 is kicking ass. There's a few spots where the drums slip out of time but it's not really that noticeable. Other than that, the mix sounds great.

The drummer in my band is hopeless, I will have to go and adjust his attitude...

The worse thing is that my guitar player is full of himself, always thinks his riffs are most important and using more energy with the lady's then actually playing. So try to work with a drunk drummer that can't keep the timing and an ago guitard....Luckily the keyboard player is a nice guy!

Rip Topaz · #32 02-06-2013, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by vin*tone

Have any of you guys sorted a good drum loop --> Audiobus --> MT solution?

I usually make simple loops in DM1, then import to Loopy as Adam said, and use Loopy to play it into MTDAW.

Of course, DM1 supports Audiobus now, so the Loopy connection really isn't necessary. If you wanted to get crazy about it, you could take the time to program the drums as a "song" inside DM1. I haven't done this yet mostly because it slows the workflow too much. I'd rather use a simple beat and get the idea down quickly.

I've tried a bunch of drum apps, but DM1 has the largest library of sounds, at least of the ones I've tried. I still need to add Garageband and give that a shot, but I'm holding out for Audiobus support.

PrietoBass · #33 02-06-2013, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by adambomb

...Preito's Red Hot Glorious Cook-off Extravaganza.

Duke21 · #34 02-06-2013, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by vin*tone

I'll play.

I've been using Garageband on my iPad to sketch up grooves for my funk band. I used to use Multitrack on my ipod but it doesn't (at least I don't think...) loop drum samples.

These recordings are not intended to do anything but throw ideas to my drummer, guit, keys guys - and give the singer something to work with.

https://soundcloud.com/vin-tone/groove-sketch

https://soundcloud.com/vin-tone/ipad-sketch-2

https://soundcloud.com/vin-tone/ipad-sketch-3

These are recorded with my 51RI P bass, Fralin split coil pup.

Guitar is a 70's Japanese 335 knock off. recorded straight into Garageband amp sims. They're surprisingly decent!

Interface is an Apogee Jam.

Welcome Vin to this thread. Never thought that you will go somewhere else then the real TC/GK/Ampeg threads!

Nice clips, and nice P tone.

KevtheRev · #35 02-06-2013, 06:36 AM

Duke21, I have noticed (using just the Apogee Jam) that I do have a lack of dynamic range for live JamUp performance - is that the limitation of the ipad headphone output? If so, I was debating about trading in my Jam for a Focusrite 2i2 w/ balanced outs. Think I'll I see a noticable difference? Thanks for the help!

adambomb · #36 02-06-2013, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by KevtheRev

Duke21, I have noticed (using just the Apogee Jam) that I do have a lack of dynamic range for live JamUp performance - is that the limitation of the ipad headphone output? If so, I was debating about trading in my Jam for a Focusrite 2i2 w/ balanced outs. Think I'll I see a noticable difference? Thanks for the help!

You should see a noticeable difference. I may have to get one of those. The only thing a saw about the 2i2 that concerns me is the lack of external power supply. It is a USB powered device. So that means the power from an iDevice won't be able to power it. The power will have to come from a powered USB hub.
Other than that the ad/da conversion is at 24bit/96khz and for that price a two channel device you can also use with your desktop computer is great. At http://www.proaudiostar.com/focusrit...nQodQgkA3Q#buy
They have them at $109

KevtheRev · #37 02-06-2013, 08:21 AM

Does the iTrack Solo work without a powered hub? The Auria website says no:
http://auriaapp.com/Support/auria-audio-interfaces

That would make a big difference, because once setup gets too complicated then it seems to get left behind.

KevtheRev · #38 02-06-2013, 08:29 AM

Did a little research, looks like it does NOT need a powered hub. That seals the deal for me. I would gladly lose the balanced outs to get a straight connection to the iPad.

Duke21 · #39 02-06-2013, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by KevtheRev

Duke21, I have noticed (using just the Apogee Jam) that I do have a lack of dynamic range for live JamUp performance - is that the limitation of the ipad headphone output? If so, I was debating about trading in my Jam for a Focusrite 2i2 w/ balanced outs. Think I'll I see a noticable difference? Thanks for the help!

Kev, it is the limitation of the headphone out.
The iTrack Solo have both A/D and D/A converters and have a gain stage on the line out AND a dedicated headphone amp.
The iTrack do not need a powered hub and 100% supported by Jamup.

Rip Topaz · #40 02-06-2013, 09:41 AM

I'm gonna get to test my iOS rig tonight for the first time with a drummer. Should be cool. I'm thinking I'll probably end up using the GK or the Blueline.

I'll be sending my signal to the PA as well as my amp (just for the extra boost). I try not to tax the PA with too much of my bass because the weak link in my Carvin 2153's is the crossovers, and I've got a tweeter that's on it's last legs. I've been trying to hold out on replacing it, but with the way things have been snowballing with my band, it's looking like we will be out playing sooner than I planned. When I turn up the system, I try to keep just enough bass in the PA to get it into the sub, and let my amp handle the heavy lifting. Any place large enough to warrant more volume will probably have a house system anyway.

I also got a call from a friend last night who wants me to put together a band with him and another old friend. We start this weekend, and of course my iOS rig will be along for the ride!!

I'm kindling wishing I would've gotten the iTrack solo now that I know it'll work with my 4S. The extra outputs would really come in handy.