iOS, iPhone, iPad and music 101

[adambomb]

Originally Posted by Beller

Thanks to all the TB'ers that have contributed to this thread. I got the Ipad as a gift and this thread caught my eye. The more I read the more enthralled I became. Apogee Jam came UPS yesterday. I loaded Jam XT with bass expansion pack, hooked up my Washburn Taurus T-25, Ipad output to my PA and I was lay'n down with the best of the contemporary Christian music world. I'd have never believed what this setup can do if it had not been for this thread. I'm planning to go Ipad to house mixer at practice Sunday afternoon. I think the options are almost unlimited.
Funny side, I called my wife back to where I was practicing last night telling her she was going to see the neatest thing since sweet potato fries, I started the music, joined in on bass, and was just about doing the snoopy dance, I look at her and she says, “yeah so?” Either she had no idea or else she always expects wonderful things out me.

Thanks again, I'm a kid at Christmas. Bill

That just tells you that the sound from iOS and jamup is great because she didn't say anything bad so there wasn't anything to notice it sounded like there was nothing out of the ordinary. Kinda like ..... No one pays attention to the sound guy unless there's a feedback problem ....then they get a lot of attention.
I use mine in worship all the time since the no amp on stage policy. It works fantastic through FOH. Miles above the stale bass to DI only.

[SteveC]

Originally Posted by adambomb

Miles above the stale bass to DI only.

I guess that depends on your bass and/or DI...

[adambomb]

Originally Posted by SteveC

I guess that depends on your bass and/or DI...

Is this a little defensive from someone who only plays only DI to FOH?

[adambomb]

If we're talking of a standard passive DI then yes stale....
If we are talking of a reddi then noooooooooo

[GrooveWarrior]

If this has been covered, forgive me. I use a Lexicon Alpha as an interface into my MacBook Pro. Is there an adapter I can use to run the Alpha into my iPad? Do I just need to use the Apple Camera USB connecter?

Thanks

[mattm]

Originally Posted by Duke21

What was the response from Positive Grid support, btw?

Pretty good. I sent the E-Mail, heard back less than 10 minutes later. Of course, the response was that it should work, and I should check the connections. Sent a reply to that and haven't heard back yet, but it is the weekend.

[adambomb]

Originally Posted by GrooveWarrior

If this has been covered, forgive me. I use a Lexicon Alpha as an interface into my MacBook Pro. Is there an adapter I can use to run the Alpha into my iPad? Do I just need to use the Apple Camera USB connecter?

Thanks

The alpha apears to be usb powered so....unless there is another way to power the lexicon then no. The Idevices do not power through the USB port the interface would have to be USB data stream only and self powered. Like my ART USB dual pre.

[DeltaPhoenix]

Originally Posted by adambomb

The alpha apears to be usb powered so....unless there is another way to power the lexicon then no. The Idevices do not power through the USB port the interface would have to be USB data stream only and self powered. Like my ART USB dual pre.

Incorrect. The Alpha will work with a powered USB Hub like so http://www.amazon.com/Medialink-4-Po...usb+hub+4+port

[adambomb]

Originally Posted by DeltaPhoenix

Incorrect. The Alpha will work with a powered USB Hub like so http://www.amazon.com/Medialink-4-Po...usb+hub+4+port

If it will work with a powered hub great but I was not incorrect. I said it had to be self powered or powered some other way and not through the iPad port. I didn't say it would not work at all. I was saying that you couldn't just plug it into the CCK.

[GrooveWarrior]

OK, so if I plug my Alpha into the powered hup, do I just plug the iPad into the hub as well?

I'm not getting how it would connect the two. The USB goes from the Alpha to the MacBook Pro, so the MBP is powering the Alpha AND it is sending the audio signals I'm putting into it.

[adambomb]

Originally Posted by GrooveWarrior

OK, so if I plug my Alpha into the powered hup, do I just plug the iPad into the hub as well?

I'm not getting how it would connect the two. The USB goes from the Alpha to the MacBook Pro, so the MBP is powering the Alpha AND it is sending the audio signals I'm putting into it.

I imagine that the USB cable that normally would be going to the computer would run through the camera connection kit into the ipad and the split hub part would run to the lexicon.

[AaronMB]

On a side note, while the Alpha should be charged via the hub, the iPad may not, if the hub doesn't put out iPad's needed 10v. (something to consider, perhaps)

[steve_rolfeca]

Originally Posted by GrooveWarrior

If this has been covered, forgive me. I use a Lexicon Alpha as an interface into my MacBook Pro. Is there an adapter I can use to run the Alpha into my iPad? Do I just need to use the Apple Camera USB connecter?

Thanks

There's lots of info on this elsewhere. Including the Auria website, I think.

Simply put, you need a powered USB hub in between the Lexicon and the iPad/CCK. That means one with a wall wart, that puts out the proper DC voltage to power the USB buss. Belkin makes one that's known to be good.

You'll plug the Hub into the wall. Then you'll plug your audio interface into one of the USB ports on the hub, so the hub can power it.

Meanwhile, you'll use the CCK and a regular USB cable as an adapter, to connect your iPad to another port on the USB hub. The CCK doesn't pass buss power from the hub, so your iPad won't charge while it's connected to this arrangement.

However, what the CCK does do, is pass data. So the Lexicon and the iPad will see each other right through the USB hub, and you'll be rocking digital audio in both directions.

Everything has to be powered up in a specific order to work properly, but there's lots of information out there if you google it...

[chumbo73]

For the Loopy HD experts:

I gave it a try today due to the reviews this program received. I don't have my bass so I'm trying it with the voice and didn't find it that useful.

What I think is that when i'll be playing my guitar I'll have both hands on the instrument so I won't be able to start/stop the recording on time, so the tracks will have blank spaces that can't be edited and are out of time. Am I doing something wrong?

[GrooveWarrior]

Originally Posted by chumbo73

For the Loopy HD experts:

I gave it a try today due to the reviews this program received. I don't have my bass so I'm trying it with the voice and didn't find it that useful.

What I think is that when i'll be playing my guitar I'll have both hands on the instrument so I won't be able to start/stop the recording on time, so the tracks will have blank spaces that can't be edited and are out of time. Am I doing something wrong?

You can set it to "count in" so you are hands free.

My question: Is there a way to change the input from the mic to something you are running into the iPad?

[Rip Topaz]

You can also set up the metronome to play during your first track.

The first track you lay down is what all other tracks are timed from. So what you can do is record the first one by playing along with either the metronome, or by importing a drum track.

Then you can loop your other tracks at will, and delete the original drum track if you like. Otherwise, you'll have to time everything just right.

[Rip Topaz]

Originally Posted by GrooveWarrior

You can set it to "count in" so you are hands free.

My question: Is there a way to change the input from the mic to something you are running into the iPad?

In a word, not really. It's all dependent on your input device. If you're using Irig or a device that uses the mic jack, that's the input you'll need.

[chumbo73]

That sounds better.

It's very simple and intuitive, good for practice but for a live performance I would stick to a loop station.

[smeet]

I'm currently using my iPad with my band. I've been triggering sound effects samples using Instant Audio Cartwall, which allows me to create labeled buttons and assign a sample to each. But it's not Audiobus compatible so I can't play a synth via MIDI at the same time. Is there an Audiobus compatible app or something else that will do this simply? I don't need looping, pitch transposition, or anything - just simple sample triggering.

[Duke21]

Sunrizer is audiobus compatible