iOS, iPhone, iPad and music 101 - Page 4

styro · #61 12-31-2012, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mound of Sound

Just saw that the JAM needs to be updated to work with iPad 2.

Mine came with the new firmware already installed and did work with an iPad 4 out of the box (using the Lightning to USB adapter)!

tekdiver500ft · #62 12-31-2012, 12:46 PM

I guess I should have asked, too, if any of these are Lightning compatible. I have the iPad 4, so no 30 pin, and I hate adapters when there is a better solution available.

PDGood · #63 12-31-2012, 02:40 PM

I don't really have a clear picture of what the iPad will and will not do in relation to music.

For example, can you put music applications on an iPad like sample players or full fledged recording apps such as Digital Performer, Cubase and Logic?

And what does it have in the way of output devices for playing back sound externally?

If you're using amp modelers that can be output to the effects loop of a real amp, how is that signal transferred?

Maybe it would be simpler to ask, what can you not do on an iPad that you can do on a computer as far as music goes?

adambomb · #64 12-31-2012, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by PDGood

I don't really have a clear picture of what the iPad will and will not do in relation to music.

For example, can you put music applications on an iPad like sample players or full fledged recording apps such as Digital Performer, Cubase and Logic?

And what does it have in the way of output devices for playing back sound externally?

If you're using amp modelers that can be output to the effects loop of a real amp, how is that signal transferred?

Maybe it would be simpler to ask, what can you not do on an iPad that you can do on a computer as far as music goes?

A better place to start would be ..... What do you want to do with it.
To answer your recording apps question is yes quite a number of apps that deal with recording and samplers and such.

PDGood · #65 12-31-2012, 03:52 PM

Ideally, I'd like it to be able to do all the things a computer can do, just be more portable - kind of like a less expensive laptop. I doubt that's possible, and I'm trying to understand what the limitations are.

I went to the Apple website and they don't explain much about music capabilities except to tell you how to move files from iTunes.

Specifically, it would be nice to be able to put Digital Performer on it (which I have) or Garage Band (which I guess you could get) and a sample player such as Kontakt. Then it could be used to record audio and midi and trigger sampled sounds (and I have a huge library of those).

While I'm dreaming, I'd like to be able to run an external keyboard via midi and trigger other samples for live performance. I would split the keyboard so that I can play both bass and other instruments at the same time.

And finally it would be great to be able to use it as a signal processor for looping, effects and high-end tonal coloring. And I use the term coloring in a positive light. Once you experience high end EQ you'll see that they all have tonal characteristics and running through a Pultec is different from a Neve although both are great.

All of these things are things that I have done on my Mac G4, which now unfortunately is out of date and needs to be upgraded. So I'm weighing options looking for the least expensive and most portable way to go.

Rip Topaz · #66 12-31-2012, 04:24 PM

Yup, you're definitely gonna need Audiobus!!

I'd suggest taking a look at Sunrizer for your synth, definitely Loopy, and maybe give Multitrack DAW a shot as well. This should get you started.

Read up on what Audiobus is and what it does, and a new world will open up to you.

cybersnyder · #67 12-31-2012, 04:37 PM

I highly recommend GigBook by Deep Dish for music scores. Very useful. I use Genius Scan to convert paper scores to PDF, put them in DropBox and then open them in GigBook. Prior to the latest update page turns were really slow with GigBook and I felt like I was settling. But in the latest update page turns are now very quick. I'll give it 5 stars.

My dream for the iPad is Korg coming up with a Korg M1 synth emulator.

AaronMB · #68 12-31-2012, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by PDGood

Ideally, I'd like it to be able to do all the things a computer can do, just be more portable - kind of like a less expensive laptop. I doubt that's possible, and I'm trying to understand what the limitations are.

I went to the Apple website and they don't explain much about music capabilities except to tell you how to move files from iTunes.

Specifically, it would be nice to be able to put Digital Performer on it (which I have) or Garage Band (which I guess you could get) and a sample player such as Kontakt. Then it could be used to record audio and midi and trigger sampled sounds (and I have a huge library of those).

While I'm dreaming, I'd like to be able to run an external keyboard via midi and trigger other samples for live performance. I would split the keyboard so that I can play both bass and other instruments at the same time.

And finally it would be great to be able to use it as a signal processor for looping, effects and high-end tonal coloring. And I use the term coloring in a positive light. Once you experience high end EQ you'll see that they all have tonal characteristics and running through a Pultec is different from a Neve although both are great.

All of these things are things that I have done on my Mac G4, which now unfortunately is out of date and needs to be upgraded. So I'm weighing options looking for the least expensive and most portable way to go.

This very thread is the essence of what you're basically talking about... After you catch up, read this thread, too. Lots of good stuff.

Rip Topaz · #69 12-31-2012, 04:52 PM

Cybersnyder: Be sure to check out Sunrizer. My old guitarist had a Korg Karma keyboard and this app has at least equal sound quality. Has a million patches, some really cool stuff.

mattm · #70 12-31-2012, 05:04 PM

Does anyone have any recommendations for decent (but still budget friendly) headphones to use while playing through the iPad?

Also, and sorry for the extremely basic question, what exactly is a DI box? A SansAmp? And if I had one, could I plug the iPad into it, and then the DI box out to any cab?

Thanks!

Rip Topaz · #71 12-31-2012, 05:20 PM

The DI box is your link between the iPad/iPhone and the PA mixer. I started a thread a few weeks ago asking which would be the best for our particular situation, and the general consensus was that the Radial AV1 would be the one best suited, though many would work just fine.

VeganThump · #72 12-31-2012, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mattm

Does anyone have any recommendations for decent (but still budget friendly) headphones to use while playing through the iPad?

People seem to like the dr dre headphones, I cant speak on them for price or quality, I just hear a lot of people talking about them, so you could maybe look into them for starters?

[/quote]Also, and sorry for the extremely basic question, what exactly is a DI box?[ /QUOTE]

I'm certain someone will give a more accurate description of a DI, but in laymans terms, it basically takes your instrument level signal and makes it line level, or in other words, capable of pushing a power amp.

[/quote]A SansAmp? And if I had one, could I plug the iPad into it, and then the DI box out to any cab?[\QUOTE]

Yes, but you would need to iPad>DI>some sort of power amp>and then to a cab.

DeltaPhoenix · #73 12-31-2012, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MLouis1981

People seem to like the dr dre headphones, I cant speak on them for price or quality, I just hear a lot of people talking about them, so you could maybe look into them for starters?

Dr Dre Beats headphones are garbage.

Andy Will · #74 12-31-2012, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltaPhoenix

Dr Dre Beats headphones are garbage.

+1

Rip Topaz · #75 12-31-2012, 07:14 PM

For headphones/earbuds, I would suggest looking towards a decent set of in ear monitor buds. The iPad/iPhone won't have any problems driving them and the sound is better than any of the trendy crap out there.

PDGood · #76 12-31-2012, 07:47 PM

I think DI's (short for direct input) got their name in the recording business. Instead of using an amp, you could plug into a DI box that went straight to the recording console. Nowadays, they have that feature built into the amplifiers so when you play live you can run directly into the P.A. without having to use a mic on your cabinet (which picks up extra noise). And some people have taken it a step further and use the box version live without amp and cabinet and rely on house monitors to hear themselves.

4Mal · #77 12-31-2012, 08:40 PM

Snagged a Riffport and a set of seemingly Ok ear buds of Amazon for $60 ... Firt time I'd fired up Jam Up since I bought it. Pretty cool though I was playing guitar not bass. Guess I need to hit the Jamup Store for the bass pack, and some other guitar amp models and some effects and a looper and DAW... Pretty cool. Totally smokes iRig as most everybody else knows :-)

Rip Topaz · #78 12-31-2012, 08:59 PM

You will enjoy the bass pack. After you pick your jaw off the floor, you'll see how each amp model has a distinct character, and there are limitless tone possibilities.

DeltaPhoenix · #79 12-31-2012, 09:19 PM

So I got my iPad 4 64GB today...WOW. I bought a bunch of apps that were discounted, some as much as half price. I got iElectribe,iMS20, AniMoog, Filtatron, FunkBox, AudioBus, MultiTrack DAW, GlitchBreaks, LoopyHD, SAMPLR, DM1, and Rhythm Studio.
I messed around and made a 3 track recording, Audiobus is so cool, and it was very easy to do.

As of now I am not worried about the amp emulator stuff. I need to get an interface though, one that does audio in and out, midi in and out.

Rip Topaz · #80 12-31-2012, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltaPhoenix

So I got my iPad 4 64GB today...WOW. I bought a bunch of apps that were discounted, some as much as half price. I got iElectribe,iMS20, AniMoog, Filtatron, FunkBox, AudioBus, MultiTrack DAW, GlitchBreaks, LoopyHD, SAMPLR, DM1, and Rhythm Studio.
I messed around and made a 3 track recording, Audiobus is so cool, and it was very easy to do.

As of now I am not worried about the amp emulator stuff. I need to get an interface though, one that does audio in and out, midi in and out.

Audiobus is amazing!! It just tied it all together.

Here's a tip:

If you build a beat in DM1, but want to use it in Loopy, you hit a problem. DM1 doesn't support Audiobus.

To get around this, go to the Tools tab in DM1, and hit Export. It'll bring up the option of using Audiocopy. From this menu you can export it to Loopy.

Funkbox is also a drum machine of a slightly different flavor. It DOES support Audiobus so adding loops is easy.