Just built a GGG Green Ringer - Questions!

[grisezd]

I just completed my second pedal build, this one is a General Guitar Gadgets Green Ringer. It does sort of a ghetto octave-up that is a little out of tune and a lot metallic. A real specialty deal, I can't imagine using it in a "proper" musical context (pop tunes, straight jazz, etc). I love it.

By itself with guitar it's a neat bubbly thing, most prominent in the higher registers. On bass it's just a bit of a fuzz except for the upper half of the G string where the metallic ring is present but not prominent.

On GGG's tech pages it was suggested that some caps could be increased in size to improve the function with bass. I looked at changing the high pass filter at the input, thinking it chopped low end on the way in, but it's set at 2.3 Hz, certainly low enough for any bass I plan to play! I've not tried to analyze the other caps in the circuit to try to size them properly. My inexperience with transistors has me a bit sheepish here.

Has anyone messed with one of these to increase the ring effect in the bass register?

PS: at the end of a Bazz Fuss, Morley Bass Wah, cheap chorus chain it boosts the hell out of the high end and coaxes out a lot of strange decay weirdness. That alone was worth the time and money!!!

[insomniac2295]

i hate to redirect you, but a different forum might yield a better result. You might try posting on freestompboxes.org or madbeanpedals.com

even though it's not a madbean pedal, i'm sure the guys over there will be more than willing to help you out.

[bongomania]

Oh I'm sure a few of us here have messed with the Green Ringer.

I've owned three: one built by JD Sleep (GGG), one built by Death By Audio, and one I built myself.

The ggg one had a lovely smooth ringing sound; the dba one was more of a dissonant distortion like you describe; and the one I made was somewhere in the middle.

I tried several mods for better low end, with no success. The dba one had a clean blend, but it phase-cancelled out the lows.

So the ideal IMO would be to tweak the ringing effect for smoother tone, and then use/incorporate a blender that has either a phase switch or a crossover.

[insomniac2295]

Originally Posted by bongomania

Oh I'm sure a few of us here have messed with the Green Ringer.

I've owned three: one built by JD Sleep (GGG), one built by Death By Audio, and one I built myself.

The ggg one had a lovely smooth ringing sound; the dba one was more of a dissonant distortion like you describe; and the one I made was somewhere in the middle.

I tried several mods for better low end, with no success. The dba one had a clean blend, but it phase-cancelled out the lows.

So the ideal IMO would be to tweak the ringing effect for smoother tone, and then use/incorporate a blender that has either a phase switch or a crossover.

I stand corrected! I sometimes forget that there's the DIY effect makers club on here...

good ideas here!