Just getting into pedals... need help.

[phoenixgraves]

Greetings!

Like the title says, I am just getting into bass effects and have bought myself some new toys for our prog rock sound. I am wondering what is the best way to order these pedals. I have only had them for a about a week, but here is how I have been playing them:

BASS-->TU-2 Tuner-->CE-5 Ensemble Chorus-->BF-3 Flanger--->Sansamp Programmable Bass Driver-->AMP

The reason I ask is that I cant seem to get any good tips online. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks! rock on.

[kevteop]

That's probably fine. Chorus and flanger are pretty similar effects, the sansamp you probably want last if you're using the DI out on it, but if you're using it as a distortion try it before the chorus and flanger - see if you like the sound of combining them that way. Generally speaking, adding effects to distortion produces more interesting results than adding distortion to other effects - distortion just covers up other stuff, whereas other stuff tends to colour or warp distortion.

Tuner first is always a good idea IMO.

[BigOldHarry]

Trial & error - that's the best way.

Some folks like their tuner last - The theory being that it will mute any noise from the FX when engaged. I don't roll that way (I do it the conventional way, tuner first) but I don't have that many FX.

The truth is, as a bassist, you don't need ANY pedals. You will sound just fine without chorus or flanger. A good tuner is pretty important, but the rest are just fun. I have several pedals but find that I use only two or three.

Another thought: A chorus & a flanger... I'd lose the flanger and get a octave for the prog thing... Me, my current setup is tuner > Chorus > distortion > octave > Envelope Filter > out. My last gig I only used the distortion on one tune, the envelope filter and octave on two tunes and the chorus on... maybe 1/3 of the tunes (4 set night). I could have used none of them and been just fine.

[Bassmike62]

Another angle on the subject...

BASS--> TU-2 Tuner--> SansAmp--> CE-5 Ensemble Chorus--> BF-3 Flanger---> AMP.

Whaterver works

[phoenixgraves]

thanks, i think i will try the sansamp before the chorus and flanger. maybe prog rock is not the right genre. i have a hard time classifying us but we have the AIC side of us, and then the TOOL side. I deffinately dont have the effects on all the time, but they deffinately add to the parts i use them. Mostly for intros, breakdowns, or parts where its just bass and drums to give it a creepier feel.

i will look into a octaver and see if it would apply. i dont use the sansamp for distortion except in one song right now. mostly i use for a nice clean tone, and a more aggressive tone with a little crunch.

I am rockin a Ibanez EDA 905 5 string bass with a Laney 2x10, 1x15 cab and Peavey Mark IV (or is VI?). So i got the low and high end; just like the effects for dynamics. I have played in other bands with absolutely no effects and can say that the sansamp is a must. I want us (the band) to get into some more trippy/ambient stuff to throw in our set list too. I am looking at the EH Cathedral and the MoodySounds Mushroom Echo for that stuff.

Any other effects or ways to wire this monster? I appreciate the assistance. Thanks!

[phoenixgraves]

I think I am done and satisfied (for the moment) with effects. I bought my board that lights up from monkey dream (pics to follow after some modifications). Since my last post I have bought a few more toys but having trouble with the order. As far as I've read, the fuzz should go before the driver? Like:

Bass--> boss tu-2 tuner--> wah--> mxr el grande bass fuzz--> sansamp PBDDI--> boss CE5 chorus--> boss bf3 flanger--> tech 21 rvb boost reverb--> boss dd3 delay

I get alot of feedback when the fuzz is after the sansamp and really haven't tried the above setup yet. So the problem could e solved. Dunno.

Does this look ok to my fellow TBers? Should the fuzz go before the wah?

[warwick.hoy]

Originally Posted by phoenixgraves

I think I am done and satisfied (for the moment) with effects. I bought my board that lights up from monkey dream (pics to follow after some modifications). Since my last post I have bought a few more toys but having trouble with the order. As far as I've read, the fuzz should go before the driver? Like:

Bass--> boss tu-2 tuner--> wah--> mxr el grande bass fuzz--> sansamp PBDDI--> boss CE5 chorus--> boss bf3 flanger--> tech 21 rvb boost reverb--> boss dd3 delay

I get alot of feedback when the fuzz is after the sansamp and really haven't tried the above setup yet. So the problem could e solved. Dunno.

Does this look ok to my fellow TBers? Should the fuzz go before the wah?

Feedback is your friend,...and I would go Fuzz-->Wah.

Originally Posted by behndy

such a silly statement. and actually trolling going by rule #5 of the stickied EFX Forum Rules.

maybe how YOU play you don't need any effects. how i play would not work without effects. does that mean i'm not a bassist?

Knowing that BigOldHarry rocks a pedalboard with some fluffy effects softens the blow of his comment a bit I think.

The point he is trying to make is that there is a difference between "want" and "need". A vast majority of bassists will get by with a clean tone or a bit of tube amp OD. Hell Mecha Shiva could get by on a clean bass tone only,...but what fun is that.

[Derelict78]

Originally Posted by phoenixgraves

Any other effects or ways to wire this monster? I appreciate the assistance. Thanks!

FUZZ,FUZZ,FUZZ

[scottfeldstein]

My pedal board right now:

bass -> tuner -> compressor -> sansamp -> amp

I eventually want to get an envelope filter, and my order will be thus:


bass -> tuner -> filter -> compressor -> sansamp -> amp

I want the sansamp as a DI, so it's gonna go last. I want the filter before the compressor because I don't want the compressor to remove the very signal peaks which trigger the filter. But I guess we'll see when I get it.

[grygrx]

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