just gigged with with DI to house... need help

[mozarwasagenius]

I got a sansamp bass driver di (programmable). Sounds great at home (headphones and through poweramp). Tried on last gig and it was great. Tried it tonight (different room, different soundman) and had to bypass it as I kept getting a farty tone (I had an SVT'ish tone but I ended up pulling the drive to 0)

I didn't have much time to play with the tone as we needed to practice the set, but the Guitarist looked over and said "no drive man, you're a bassist " I thought with drive down the distortion was gone but I think the blend (which I had maxxed) was causing the issue as at the end of the night I turned it down and voila... tone wasn't farting... I think I need to experiment with the blend knob.

The sounman came over after the gig and we talked. I said the DI was a tube emulator. He said maybe you got a bad tube... we chuckled at that.

I didn't have too much level as it was similar to the bypassed tone.

Any thoughts, suggestions, help, spiritual guidance?

I'm still learning on this thing, and I know the tone is there, I just need more time with it.

thanks

[assboglin]

In my experience with them, the Sansamp Bass Drivers can get farty depending on what you're playing through them and what you're plugging them into. It's just the nature of the beast. Under optimal conditions it can get you a decent emulation, but it certainly isn't perfect. Turning down the drive and the blend should help, although turning down the blend begins to undermine the point of the effect part of the pedal.

[ehque]

Maybe you've pushed your EQ knobs too far...

[basadam]

Originally Posted by assboglin

In my experience with them, the Sansamp Bass Drivers can get farty

I am sorry but I don't agree. All those Drive+Bass+Treble+Presence+Blend controls are there to give you a lot flexibility. It is true that a given setting will not be suitable for every venue but that's why there are so many knobs on the beast.

Mozarwasagenius; what was your settings on Sansamp and what was the eq setting on the desk? There is no rule of thumb as to how a Sansamp should be set. But I find that easing on the bass knob will almost always solve muddines or farting issues. We bass players have a tendency to boost bass but sometimes doing the opposite is the solution. Less Drive will also help but I never needed to decrease it to less that 9 o'clock.

[mozarwasagenius]

Originally Posted by basadam

Mozarwasagenius; what was your settings on Sansamp and what was the eq setting on the desk? There is no rule of thumb as to how a Sansamp should be set. But I find that easing on the bass knob will almost always solve muddines or farting issues. We bass players have a tendency to boost bass but sometimes doing the opposite is the solution. Less Drive will also help but I never needed to decrease it to less that 9 o'clock.

The desk was flat eq wise . I had the drive down to 0, the bass @ 1 oclock, treble at 11, presence at 2, blend at max and level at 10.

XLR pad was on (we were using xlr out)

passive pbass volume & tone full


Thanks

[basadam]

That settings seem pretty normal to me. Although my suggestion still somewhat applies that decreasing Bass would help, in this case I would seriously suspect something was wrong in the entire chain. Just to make sure, were your batteries fresh?

[enderwaves]

basadam brings up a good point. my pbddi gets real blah sounding when the batteries start to fade, although another (better) local player said he's never had that happen, just the lights dimming.

in my experience, turning the bass down usually solves any 'fartiness' issues. we just changed practice spaces, and in the new, smaller room, i had to turn down from about 1 o'clock to nearly 9 o'clock.

ps. tell your guitarist to take a hike about the drive thing.

[Modulator]

Sounds like the soundguy was possibly somewhat inexperienced. Maybe he didn't have his board properly gainstaged?

[basadam]

Originally Posted by enderwaves

ps. tell your guitarist to take a hike about the drive thing.

+1

[John Herzog]

Originally Posted by enderwaves

ps. tell your guitarist to take a hike about the drive thing.

+1, tell him you'll operate your gear and he can operate his.