Karnivool bass tone

PauBass · #1 11-23-2009, 02:53 AM

Yes, it's another one of those how to get this tone thread, sorry but any help would be highly appreciated.

I'm trying to find my ideal distorted sound and listening to Karnivool I really liked the bass sound on "Simple Boy", a track from their latest album, right at the beginning of the song. Listen here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cjvtx3HMUks

I'm not trying to copy his tone but it's similar to what I have in mind. Any ideas?

Thanks!

uglymutt · #2 11-23-2009, 02:56 AM

Can't help you but nice to see you like Karnivool, hopefully someone with a bit more knowledge can help out.

Luke.Walton · #3 11-23-2009, 03:02 AM

'Vool Rule! Haha.

Somehow I just found this thread.

Jon Stockman of Karnivool

Hopefully it helps

LiF · #4 11-23-2009, 03:15 AM

You posted this a few weeks too late. His father was the drummer in my band. I could have asked him to ask his son. I do know he plays a 6 string Warwick.

hipo · #5 11-23-2009, 03:17 AM

great band

Mark B · #6 11-23-2009, 04:13 AM

Karnivool is a great band! I think Sound Awake is even better then Themata.

I accidentally found that Simple Boy sound with my Ashdown hyperdrive bass pedal...

I distort the high mid frequency and blend it with my clean bass signal. About 1/3 distorted sound and 2/3 clean sound. You can copy James Lomenzo's favourite setting (on the ashdown site) and turn the freq down a bit untill 2/3. That's where I get that tone.

Good luck and I hope it helps!

icarussmicarus · #7 11-23-2009, 05:35 AM

In one of the pedalboard f the stars threads, someone had messaged him personally and asked about his setup. In his reply he mentioned he had recently added the Tech 21 XXLB and Boss DD-20 for the new album.

I'm guessing Simple Boy is the XXLB run through his ampeg. He probablly cranked the ampeg during recording for an even more vicious sound.

PauBass · #8 11-23-2009, 09:49 AM

Thanks for all the input guys!

Yeah, Karnivool are a great band and the basslines are superb, very tasty.

So it's the Tech 21 XXLB the way to go then?

I don't know but after listening to a few clips it seems to me that the distortion it's a bit fizzy instead of more organic.

jimmyjames · #9 06-18-2011, 04:33 PM

pulled from an interview..

"he bass sound on Simple Boy was combination of I think either the ODB-3 boss overdrive or XXL Tech 21 pedal through an ampeg rig with the valve being driven and then combined with the DI being distorted by Amplitude 1 plugin, live I just use the XXL through Ashdown ABM500/Ashdown fridge in combination with an Aguilar Tonehammer through an Ashdown/Ampeg fridge at the same time. The Aguilar is supposed to emulate the distorted DI tone I had on recording so it has lots of the bass pulled out and sounds kinda horrible by itself. Adds colour to mid range live though.

Goliath was a bit different, it was a combination of ODB3 and a pedal called the Black Stone, which is made in NY and is very small. That was then put through both an Ashdown ABM 500/Ashdown fridge and an Ampeg SVT-2pro/Ampeg Fridge (mind you the studio we did this in had a vintage 70's Ampeg cabinet so it sounded huge. Actually tracked that at same time as drums, so it was a bass/drums live recording. Did same with Deadman in that studio. All else were tracked elsewhere at another studio."

PauBass · #10 06-19-2011, 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmyjames

pulled from an interview..

"he bass sound on Simple Boy was combination of I think either the ODB-3 boss overdrive or XXL Tech 21 pedal through an ampeg rig with the valve being driven and then combined with the DI being distorted by Amplitude 1 plugin, live I just use the XXL through Ashdown ABM500/Ashdown fridge in combination with an Aguilar Tonehammer through an Ashdown/Ampeg fridge at the same time. The Aguilar is supposed to emulate the distorted DI tone I had on recording so it has lots of the bass pulled out and sounds kinda horrible by itself. Adds colour to mid range live though.

Goliath was a bit different, it was a combination of ODB3 and a pedal called the Black Stone, which is made in NY and is very small. That was then put through both an Ashdown ABM 500/Ashdown fridge and an Ampeg SVT-2pro/Ampeg Fridge (mind you the studio we did this in had a vintage 70's Ampeg cabinet so it sounded huge. Actually tracked that at same time as drums, so it was a bass/drums live recording. Did same with Deadman in that studio. All else were tracked elsewhere at another studio."

Good info, cheers!
I wonder how he does it live, any ideas?

Bassmingo · #11 07-13-2011, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PauBass

Good info, cheers!
I wonder how he does it live, any ideas?

"live I just use the XXL through Ashdown ABM500/Ashdown fridge in combination with an Aguilar Tonehammer through an Ashdown/Ampeg fridge at the same time. "

it was in the bit you just quoted....