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03-13-2008, 03:58 PM
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For all of you head and cab users...
has anyone ever tried puttin effects between there speaker output from the amp and the input on the cabinet?
if so was it a good tone?
if your not supposed to do this let me know
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03-13-2008, 04:01 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sarnia, Ontario, Canada | | | yeah, really don't do that...the power output will more than likely (read: WILL) blow your effects.
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03-13-2008, 04:49 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Maine/Vermont | | | Yeah, that's a terrible idea.
Props for thinking outside the (stomp)box, though. | 
03-13-2008, 04:57 PM
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03-13-2008, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Sean S yeah, really don't do that...the power output will more than likely (read: WILL) blow your effects. | +Infinity
If you want to destroy your effects pedals (and indulge the scent of burning circuitboards), feel free to put it between the speaker output and the effects.
If you want to try effects at a place other than before the input of your amp, try placing them in your amp's effects loop. Generally, the results aren't that great with pedals, but that's not always the case.
The effects loop is largely designed for rackmount effects, but the output is by no means harmful to pedals. You just might end up overdriving them, that's all.
Some modulation pedals, for example, can work well in the effects loop, and that's a benefit for guitarists and others who depend on their preamp for distortion.
It beats setting them on fire. 
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03-13-2008, 05:12 PM
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03-13-2008, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by kyral210 1. Why would you ever want to? | maybe he has a death wish 
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03-13-2008, 05:49 PM
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03-13-2008, 05:53 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Maine/Vermont | | | Or, he could run all your pedals in your Post-EQ out, if that's the kind of thing he's looking for...
(the idea of pedals between the amp and the cab sounds to me like he's trying to keep his bass from going into his stompboxes before his amp) | 
03-13-2008, 05:56 PM
| | | | you will likely blow it.
It'll prob give you the nice smell of electrical fire though. | 
03-14-2008, 04:09 AM
| | | | thanks guys for the advice.the reason i thougt of this because my amp dosent have an effects loop and i was thinking it would give me a different tone.
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03-14-2008, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by kingofthestring thanks guys for the advice.the reason i thougt of this because my amp dosent have an effects loop and i was thinking it would give me a different tone. | Oh, but it would.
What amp are you using? Your Hartke head has an effects loop, but your combo doesn't.
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03-14-2008, 02:57 PM
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03-14-2008, 03:40 PM
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03-14-2008, 09:56 PM
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"Ok, now here's how I get my amazing tone; I plug my amp output into my pedals, and then my speakers...check this out..."
*plays chord*
*fizzle fizzle*
"Mmmmmm....smell that? it's the smell of success!!"
*burninating*
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03-14-2008, 10:40 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Chicago, IL | | | fire bad
but seriously don't do that...ever | 
03-15-2008, 03:38 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia | | | You could do it with a power soak style device. There are also DI boxes that accept speaker level inputs, it wouldn't be too hard to find one with an effects loops as well. You could also add your effects post DI at the board, or post mic at the board. | 
03-15-2008, 04:23 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: wichita kansas | | | i respect your patience in asking someone before you try something youre not sure about. thats a very mature approach. i have destroyed a few studio toys ( MY studio toys of course) in search for new sounds. i actually have an old compressor pedal that i completely ruined by running a powered signal through it...the side effect was that it makes very strange but "music-able" noises now. you never know. -joe p | 
03-15-2008, 07:32 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: On The Bayou | | | Some have tried it...none were happy about it. | 
03-16-2008, 05:59 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Norway | | well... not only you will destroy your pedal..... but you amp also..... if the pedal get shorted the amp will overdrive and blow up 
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