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09-09-2007, 05:56 AM
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I recently heard Sly and the Family Stone's "Dance to the Music", and there's one part where Larry Graham does a solo, and he used a fuzzbox. Nice sound. Almost sounds like a synth.
Also, I think that the bass on "United States of Whatever" had fuzz used. Sounded like a synth.
What fuzzboxes were used on each respective song? I mean, I'd like to use the same bass tone heard on "United States..." for the "Time is Running Out" intro, but I don't know if the Big Muff can do that kind of tone.
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09-09-2007, 06:28 AM
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They say either Maestro Brassmaster or the fuzz built into an Acoustic 360 amp. In interviews i've seen Larry talks about it being a fuzzbox (so i'm guessing its a pedal of some sort)
The Malekko B:Assmaster is a take on the old Brassmaster Fuzz pedal, and has had great reviews on Talkbass - might want to check that out
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09-09-2007, 08:01 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Jamaica, Queens, NY. By JFK. | | | Larry Graham uses a Pro Co Juggernaut fuzz box. It's said he went through 15 before he found one that sounded good.
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09-09-2007, 10:57 PM
| | | Found a schematic of the brassmaster: http://www.generalguitargadgets.com/...smaster_sc.jpg
It looks to be passing a bass signal through a full wave bridge, thus squaring it. It would soft clipping since there's no feedback. This would have the effect of raising the pitch an octave on the "brass" part. Followed by a bandpass filter. It would sound like a synth. It mixes regular bass back in and retains the bottom.
This is a very clever circuit for the time of Sly and Family Stone. I'm going to have to hunt down some tracks and listen.
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09-09-2007, 11:29 PM
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EXAR pedals rep for North & Central America | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR | | | +1 on Larry using the Brassmaster and the Juggernaut, although as was mentioned, the Juggernauts are a bad gamble. The Brassmaster was used on many of my favorite funky tracks from the old days. The weird thing is -due to recording technology, mixing/mastering, etc.- the current Brassmaster clones by themselves don't sound anything like the old-school tracks, at least not to my ears. I suspect you'd need to use a lot of EQ to "reshape" the Brassmaster clone into the old Larry tone. |
09-10-2007, 07:30 PM
| | | | I also love the United States of Whatever tone- any word on that? |
09-10-2007, 08:17 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ankh-Morpork | | | more accurate to say he was using a Juggernaut back in the 80s or whenever that instructional video was made. Ain't gonna sound like the original recording anyways. Big muff would probably be a better bet.
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09-10-2007, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by The Lurker  more accurate to say he was using a Juggernaut back in the 80s or whenever that instructional video was made. Ain't gonna sound like the original recording anyways. Big muff would probably be a better bet. | Sweet. I'm considering getting a Big Muff. Next time I'm in a guitar shop, and there's a Big Muff available for customers to try out, I'll try it out on bass guitar.
I know it's known for having a boomy low end, but I wonder how it would sound if I took some of it away...
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09-10-2007, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ndrly I know it's known for having a boomy low end, but I wonder how it would sound if I took some of it away... | Crank the sustain/distortion, Crank the tone!
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09-11-2007, 01:53 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia | | | Hmm. I didn't think the gain knob really did anything. I thought the gain stayed the same, but you heard more sustain.
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09-11-2007, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ndrly Sweet. I'm considering getting a Big Muff. Next time I'm in a guitar shop, and there's a Big Muff available for customers to try out, I'll try it out on bass guitar.
I know it's known for having a boomy low end, but I wonder how it would sound if I took some of it away... | if you have a choice, have a look at the Little Big Muff. It's a huge improvement over the old-style big ones; true bypass, more rugged, better hardware, and sounds better too.
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