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LukeMan970 01-02-2013 11:04 PM

Low pass/Envelope filter with punch?
 
Lately I've been on the look out for an envelope/low pass filter to add to my growing pedal arsenal but I'm not sure where to find what I'm looking for. I saw Primus this past summer and Les was using an envelope filter during some of there jams but his tone stayed so tight and punchy in the low end. I guess I'm looking for something like that but not necessarily his exact set up.

Can anyone give me a few ideas on where to look for a filter that really keeps the low end intact without it getting washed out in the effect?

scottfeldstein 01-03-2013 12:19 AM

Get one with a wet/dry mix or separate wet/dry levels. Or at least a good EQ.

sillyfabe 01-03-2013 05:26 AM

WMD Super Fatman

DeltaPhoenix 01-03-2013 06:13 AM

Iron Ether Xerograph DLX

Roscoe East 01-03-2013 07:24 AM

Get one with variable Sensetivity and Resonance (sometimes called "Peak" or "Q") so you can dial back the intensity of the quack/blap.

kevteop 01-03-2013 07:37 AM

If you want a working blend control avoid pedals based on the Meatball circuit - the filtered signal goes out of phase in Low- and High-Pass modes so all the blend does is make everything quieter and weedier!

It's still the best envelope follower I've played though, shame.

One Bad Monkey 01-03-2013 07:41 AM

The MXR Bass Envelope Filter has separate wet/dry settings to help you dial in as much/little of the funk as you want.

scottfeldstein 01-03-2013 07:45 AM

True. In fact, the only thing I ever had to fuss over with it was to make sure it wasn't adding too much thump to my signal!

DeltaPhoenix 01-03-2013 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by One Bad Monkey (Post 13661910)
The MXR Bass Envelope Filter has separate wet/dry settings to help you dial in as much/little of the funk as you want.

OP asked about Lowpass filters and this is a Bandpass, just saying.

scottfeldstein 01-03-2013 07:52 AM

Sure, but the reason given for it was to retain low end. That can be achieved different ways.

Basehead 01-03-2013 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeltaPhoenix (Post 13661632)
Iron Ether Xerograph DLX

+1,000

If you're looking for a pedal that will perform double duty between low pass and envelope filter, the Iron Ether Xero Dlx is hard to beat - the pedal speaks with authority, has a small footprint, works off of standard 9v power, high quality relay bypass, and is pretty darn spiffy looking.

DeltaPhoenix 01-03-2013 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottfeldstein (Post 13661958)
Sure, but the reason given for it was to retain low end. That can be achieved different ways.

By definition Bandpass cuts lows. For me, a clean blend is not the answer to every question about retaining lows. Of course, Different strokes for different folks.

I have had the MXR and Still have a Xero DLX. The MXR is a GREAT rock-n-roll envelope filter, it sits in a mix well.

The Xerograph has such a large amount of range that it can pummel a mix (and speakers if you aren't careful) with so much lows.

M Sterling 01-03-2013 08:17 AM

Yeah, I thought the MXR was pretty nice. Then I tried the Xerograph deluxe. It is almost perfect and extremely versatile.

Swift713 01-03-2013 08:26 AM

I gather the MXR is very popular at the moment, I haven't tried it. In my experience, the Q-tron in LP mode has plenty of low end, a strong effect, and cuts through anything.
The Zoom B3 has some nifty filters as well.

BFunk 01-03-2013 08:47 AM

Still the best filter I have ever heard. I love mine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeltaPhoenix (Post 13661632)
Iron Ether Xerograph DLX


scottfeldstein 01-03-2013 08:57 AM

Wow, a lot of love for this unit. I'm making a note of it. Maybe I'll get to try one myself sometime.

Grimoire 01-03-2013 09:15 AM

In the short time I had the Sonuus Wahoo I would say it would do everything you need and a whole lot more, absolutely awesome pedal...so far. Would have been even better if the expression pedal worked out of the box, I am having withdrawals...can't wait to get it back, a lot of fun to be had in that box.

MilkyMcMilkMilk 01-03-2013 10:21 AM

any of the 3leaf filters will retain your low end.

FilterFunk 01-03-2013 11:01 AM

EHX QBalls. Dial in whatever you want, laid-back or punchy.

old-fashioned 01-03-2013 06:07 PM

My IE Xerograph Deluxe amazes me again and again... It's perfect as a regular and an insane pedal.


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