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Old 01-02-2013, 11:04 PM
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Low pass/Envelope filter with punch?

Lately I've been on the look out for an envelope/low pass filter to add to my growing pedal arsenal but I'm not sure where to find what I'm looking for. I saw Primus this past summer and Les was using an envelope filter during some of there jams but his tone stayed so tight and punchy in the low end. I guess I'm looking for something like that but not necessarily his exact set up.

Can anyone give me a few ideas on where to look for a filter that really keeps the low end intact without it getting washed out in the effect?
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Get one with a wet/dry mix or separate wet/dry levels. Or at least a good EQ.
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Old 01-03-2013, 06:13 AM
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Old 01-03-2013, 07:24 AM
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Get one with variable Sensetivity and Resonance (sometimes called "Peak" or "Q") so you can dial back the intensity of the quack/blap.
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Old 01-03-2013, 07:37 AM
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If you want a working blend control avoid pedals based on the Meatball circuit - the filtered signal goes out of phase in Low- and High-Pass modes so all the blend does is make everything quieter and weedier!

It's still the best envelope follower I've played though, shame.
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Old 01-03-2013, 07:41 AM
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The MXR Bass Envelope Filter has separate wet/dry settings to help you dial in as much/little of the funk as you want.
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Old 01-03-2013, 07:45 AM
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True. In fact, the only thing I ever had to fuss over with it was to make sure it wasn't adding too much thump to my signal!
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The MXR Bass Envelope Filter has separate wet/dry settings to help you dial in as much/little of the funk as you want.
OP asked about Lowpass filters and this is a Bandpass, just saying.
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Old 01-03-2013, 07:52 AM
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Sure, but the reason given for it was to retain low end. That can be achieved different ways.
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Old 01-03-2013, 07:57 AM
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If you're looking for a pedal that will perform double duty between low pass and envelope filter, the Iron Ether Xero Dlx is hard to beat - the pedal speaks with authority, has a small footprint, works off of standard 9v power, high quality relay bypass, and is pretty darn spiffy looking.
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Sure, but the reason given for it was to retain low end. That can be achieved different ways.
By definition Bandpass cuts lows. For me, a clean blend is not the answer to every question about retaining lows. Of course, Different strokes for different folks.

I have had the MXR and Still have a Xero DLX. The MXR is a GREAT rock-n-roll envelope filter, it sits in a mix well.

The Xerograph has such a large amount of range that it can pummel a mix (and speakers if you aren't careful) with so much lows.

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Old 01-03-2013, 08:17 AM
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Yeah, I thought the MXR was pretty nice. Then I tried the Xerograph deluxe. It is almost perfect and extremely versatile.
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Old 01-03-2013, 08:26 AM
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I gather the MXR is very popular at the moment, I haven't tried it. In my experience, the Q-tron in LP mode has plenty of low end, a strong effect, and cuts through anything.
The Zoom B3 has some nifty filters as well.
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Old 01-03-2013, 08:47 AM
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Still the best filter I have ever heard. I love mine.

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Wow, a lot of love for this unit. I'm making a note of it. Maybe I'll get to try one myself sometime.
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Old 01-03-2013, 09:15 AM
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In the short time I had the Sonuus Wahoo I would say it would do everything you need and a whole lot more, absolutely awesome pedal...so far. Would have been even better if the expression pedal worked out of the box, I am having withdrawals...can't wait to get it back, a lot of fun to be had in that box.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:21 AM
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any of the 3leaf filters will retain your low end.
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:01 AM
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My IE Xerograph Deluxe amazes me again and again... It's perfect as a regular and an insane pedal.
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