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Old 04-13-2008, 12:46 AM
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Hello,

I play an Epiphone Jack Casady Signature with Flatwound strings. The love the bass, but I've recently joined a metal band. Needless to say, smooth, warm jazz doesn't cut it.

I do NOT wanted to get rid of my bass and buy a new one, so I was thinking -
Are there any pedals that can turn my bass into a bass for
Heavy Metal?
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Old 04-13-2008, 12:50 AM
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Buy a pack of roundwounds. Try using a pick.
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I started playing with a p-bass wit flats. If you use a pick you can get a nice metal sound out of flats with the right eq settings. But dont let the genre limit you, I played smooth basslines as much as i could cuz i didnt want to be confined by what is perceived as "metal" sounding, and my bandmates were all for it, it gave us a unique sound so just experiment and you'll get it, no way this should make you give up your bass, I'd say the only thing you may have to do is put round wounds on it.
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Old 04-13-2008, 12:54 AM
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Buy a pack of roundwounds. Try using a pick.
Good advice. I wouldn't fall into the trap of distortion pedals, as they will sound super cool at home but will get you lost/drowned out in the mix with distorted metal guitars. Rounds and a pick, through a super clean and powerful amp, will get you what you want. If you are unwilling to go that route and just want to step on a pedal, then I'd recommend an EQ pedal to emphasize the highs and high mids so you'll cut through better. A compressor may be beneficial as well, depending on your playing style.
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Old 04-13-2008, 01:22 AM
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I just recently started using flats, and I must say that they sound great either run through the distortion channel on my GK 2001RBP (same as a GK Diesel Dawg) or for a clean, cutting sound I run it through my EBS MultiComp in Multiband mode.
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get a tube amp ;<
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Flats fingerstyle sound awesome for metal. Just get an amp with a tube pre and emphisize the mids. Set the gain to that its just on the verge of breaking up too.



Check out the "Making bass heard in metal" sticky in the technique forum. Awesome stuff
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If you ever wanna scare the hell out of your bandmates, get rounds for the Casady and run it through either a B:Assmaster or an old Turbo Rat.
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I'm all for some compression and a ton of fuzz. With some rounds, some boosted mids (maybe high mids), a compressor (Aphex Punch factory is cheap and great) and good fuzz pedal (MXR Blowtorch, or just something with lots of definition [that means no Big Muff]) you'd be heard fine. Plus playing that bass and making it work in a metal band would be awesome.
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High gain distortion + semi-hollow body instrument = feedback

+1 to EQing and compression. Give the Hartke Bass Attack a look, I think it'll solve a lot of problems (EQ, pre-amp, tone shaping, a little bit of grit)
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High gain distortion + semi-hollow body instrument = feedback
Mad experimentalist (me) + already done it = not with the B:Assmaster or Turbo Rat
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Good advice. I wouldn't fall into the trap of distortion pedals, as they will sound super cool at home but will get you lost/drowned out in the mix with distorted metal guitars. Rounds and a pick, through a super clean and powerful amp, will get you what you want. If you are unwilling to go that route and just want to step on a pedal, then I'd recommend an EQ pedal to emphasize the highs and high mids so you'll cut through better. A compressor may be beneficial as well, depending on your playing style.
im with bongo.. i play metal... and if you want to be heard and sound more "aggressive" i wouldnt click on the distortion pedal unless one or both of the guitar players drop out for a part.. or go clean for a passage. i sometimes use an overdrive for parts when the guitars dont sound as full as the rest of the song.. so i add some dirt to my signal to fill in the blanks so to speak.
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Old 04-13-2008, 11:56 AM
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What kind of flats are you using? I use TIs and they really have no trouble cutting through whatsoever.
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I use old chromes and i get awesome mids
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