Master 'Off' Switch

*ToNeS* · #1 11-29-2010, 11:17 PM

Hey guys. Reckon this might be a simple one, but... how do I bypass all of pedals at once without having to stomp on each of them? Can you get some sort of master 'off' switch pedal to run in your chain?

EDIT: My amp has an effects loop - is this any help?

Green Mind · #2 11-29-2010, 11:20 PM

You could put everything in a loop via something like the Boss LS-2.

ninepoundjammer · #3 11-29-2010, 11:44 PM

Or use any of the simple bypass loopers made by loop-master, looper, and a bunch of other people.

Deluge Of Sound · #4 11-30-2010, 12:32 AM

Are you looking for a quick mute, or something that'll let you go from heavily effected to clean with one push?

*ToNeS* · #5 11-30-2010, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Deluge Of Sound

Are you looking for a quick mute, or something that'll let you go from heavily effected to clean with one push?

Masses of noisy effects to clean with but ONE PUSH

JumboJack · #6 11-30-2010, 12:40 AM

This is just what you need.

Deluge Of Sound · #7 11-30-2010, 12:41 AM

A bypass looper would work for that.

Like this:
http://www.stevesmusiccenter.com/Toa...assLooper.html

*ToNeS* · #8 11-30-2010, 12:42 AM

Would a standalone footswitch through my amp's effects loop work as well, or do I need one of those specialised boxes?

James Judson · #9 11-30-2010, 12:44 AM

Your option is basically a multi effects processor. Push one button = everything is on, push one button = everything is off. When I say everything it really means everything you choose. The only other way to control a bunch of effects might be thru a midi chain. Most pedals do not have midi control. Musicians tend to favor individual pedals cuz they can pick and choose which ones they like best and that combination just does not exist in a multi unit. One word of caution: If you demo one of these multi pedals I'm talking about, you will hear awesome patches. When you get to rehearsal most of the awesome patches just don't work in the mix.

YMMV

*ToNeS* · #10 11-30-2010, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by James Judson

Your option is basically a multi effects processor. Push one button = everything is on, push one button = everything is off. When I say everything it really means everything you choose. The only other way to control a bunch of effects might be thru a midi chain. Most pedals do not have midi control. Musicians tend to favor individual pedals cuz they can pick and choose which ones they like best and that combination just does not exist in a multi unit. One word of caution: If you demo one of these multi pedals I'm talking about, you will hear awesome patches. When you get to rehearsal most of the awesome patches just don't work in the mix.

YMMV

I've actually been using things like the Digi BP200 and Boss's GT-6B for years now, and I'm sick of them. My guitaroo and I are going full-bore old school pedal action on our band... some of the units I'm unearthing are insane, and do things that would make your average multi bow its head in shame. There's no going back now.

ninepoundjammer · #11 11-30-2010, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by *ToNeS*

Would a standalone footswitch through my amp's effects loop work as well, or do I need one of those specialised boxes?

Unless your amp can use a footswitch to switch the effects loop in and out (unlikely), then you'll need some sort of looper that can be bypassed (i.e. one of those specialized boxes).

Deluge Of Sound · #12 11-30-2010, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by James Judson

Your option is basically a multi effects processor. Push one button = everything is on, push one button = everything is off. When I say everything it really means everything you choose. The only other way to control a bunch of effects might be thru a midi chain. Most pedals do not have midi control. Musicians tend to favor individual pedals cuz they can pick and choose which ones they like best and that combination just does not exist in a multi unit. One word of caution: If you demo one of these multi pedals I'm talking about, you will hear awesome patches. When you get to rehearsal most of the awesome patches just don't work in the mix.

YMMV

Er, uh, no.

*ToNeS* · #13 11-30-2010, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ninepoundjammer

Unless your amp can use a footswitch to switch the effects loop in and out (unlikely), then you'll need some sort of looper that can be bypassed (i.e. one of those specialized boxes).

Right so, pardon my ignorance, but what the crap is that effects loop even for?

More importantly, how do you connect a looper so that it bypasses everything?

Deluge Of Sound · #14 11-30-2010, 01:15 AM

Effects loops are for effects that are run at the ...

I'm blanking on the name, but its _____ level. The effect goes in post-preamp and pre-poweramp. Generally speaking, most pedals want to be run into the input of the amp, not the effects loop.

ninepoundjammer · #15 11-30-2010, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by *ToNeS*

More importantly, how do you connect a looper so that it bypasses everything?

All the pedals go in the loop. Hit the switch, they're all in the path, hit it again and they're all out. Or, just put the pedals that you want to switch in/out simultaneously in the loop. The pedals with multiple loops give you multiple sets of pedals to pull in and out of the path.

*ToNeS* · #16 11-30-2010, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ninepoundjammer

All the pedals go in the loop. Hit the switch, they're all in the path, hit it again and they're all out. Or, just put the pedals that you want to switch in/out simultaneously in the loop. The pedals with multiple loops give you multiple sets of pedals to pull in and out of the path.

That's great, just what I wanted.

Which one's the best bang for your buck? Some of them seem to differ wildly in price for such a utilitarian stomp-box.

iamdenialNJ · #17 11-30-2010, 01:24 AM

Ask a looper builder to build you a 1loop switcher with a master bypass switch. Kinda like this but instead of 2 loops just ask for 1 loop.

http://www.loop-master.com/product_i...products_id=57

ninepoundjammer · #18 11-30-2010, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by *ToNeS*

That's great, just what I wanted.

Which one's the best bang for your buck? Some of them seem to differ wildly in price for such a utilitarian stomp-box.

The prices are indeed fairly steep for what is a very simple device, but it has to be worth someone's time to put the thing together. The loop-master/looper ones are fine but you'll have to wait for it to be built. I have a Keeley looper that was way more expensive, did seem to have a nicer switch than my loop-master though. The toadworks unit seems pretty widely available and intermediate in price.

*ToNeS* · #19 11-30-2010, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ninepoundjammer

The prices are indeed fairly steep for what is a very simple device, but it has to be worth someone's time to put the thing together. The loop-master/looper ones are fine but you'll have to wait for it to be built. I have a Keeley looper that was way more expensive, did seem to have a nicer switch than my loop-master though. The toadworks unit seems pretty widely available and intermediate in price.

Was leaning towards that Toadworks thingy.

Now to find one locally in bass backwater Australia. Great

Insouciance · #20 11-30-2010, 02:37 AM

My set up implements a true bypass looper, and its really slick. I plug into a dirt box, plug into the looper, and in the loop is about 10 pedals. The pedals range from whammy, reverb, ring mod, moar dirt pedals, trem...whole 9 yards. The using the TBL as a master, "off" switch is awesome. You go from an ethereal wall of sound to BOOM! Crystal clean bass. I love it.

My true bypass looper is the Toadworks one, and it is very legit. The only tip I can give you is make sure you position the pedal in the normal position, not on it's side. I have mine turned 90 degrees, so when I slam the button, I hit the cables on the side and they have worn out (and thus cut out) frequently.

Other than that, great pedal trick.to use.