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Old 08-26-2008, 05:50 PM
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Hey guys, I'm looking to get some new effects. I'll have a little under a grand for them so what I'm thinking about getting is either...

- A Robot Factory Meatwad, Micro POG and Bass Big Muff.

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- A Robot Factory Meatwad and XO Bass Micro Synth.

Which would be more versatile? What would you do?

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Old 08-26-2008, 05:56 PM
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what kind of sounds are u looking for? the synth is , well - synth, different from bass muff. i, personally would go with the first choice, because you would get a wider range of sounds, having more pedals and having better pedals. ive heard good things about the synth, but im not a snyth kind of a guy, so im biased. the POG always seemed like a cool pedal, from watching video reviews i'd have to agree.
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Old 08-26-2008, 06:02 PM
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The Meatwad on its own will be for more classic funk. I'd like to be able to get some synthy tones for some drum n bass stuff I'm doing and some big ambient break downs.

I guess I want to know if the combination of the first three pedals could create some good useable synth tones.
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I'd say get the bass microsynth (which has its own octave up/down) over the micro POG, but try to get the BBM as well.

Is there any specific reason the Q-tron+ wouldn't satisfy you as much as the MeatWad, for instance? Over 300 is a lot to pay for your frst envelope filter; some folks would argue you should try the DOD fx25 before anything more expensive and they have a point.

Save on that effect and you'll have enough for envelope filter, microsynth and fuzz (the BBM is a great, versatile choice), maybe even something else!
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The Meatwad on its own will be for more classic funk. I'd like to be able to get some synthy tones for some drum n bass stuff I'm doing and some big ambient break downs.

I guess I want to know if the combination of the first three pedals could create some good useable synth tones.
not nearly as many as you could with the BMS.
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Old 08-26-2008, 06:16 PM
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That's actually a really good idea. I can get a bit too carried away with wanting the best gear straight out of the gate.

A BMS and Qtron+ would be sweet and a few hundred NZ dollars cheaper than the other options.
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Old 08-26-2008, 06:53 PM
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Some very cool pedals there but yeah, that's a chunk of change.

You're getting close to Octavius Squeezer prices at that point. Just saying. . .

If I wanted funky and synthy on a budget, I'd be looking at a Boss OC-2, a synthy fuzz (I personally hated the Blowtorch, but it might be up your alley - I'd go with a MI Neo or Chunk Brown Dog) and a versatile filter. The Q-Tron fits that bill more than an FX25 does.

Hope that helps.
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I'd say the first group

BMS not as useful as octave & dirt for me

with those three you can make a pho-synth...
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Some very cool pedals there but yeah, that's a chunk of change.

You're getting close to Octavius Squeezer prices at that point. Just saying. . .

If I wanted funky and synthy on a budget, I'd be looking at a Boss OC-2, a synthy fuzz (I personally hated the Blowtorch, but it might be up your alley - I'd go with a MI Neo or Chunk Brown Dog) and a versatile filter. The Q-Tron fits that bill more than an FX25 does.

Hope that helps.
You're right but I'm getting tired of waiting. I should probably hold out a little longer for the OC
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I would go for option 1... Make sure you ask Mario to mod the pedal so that you can route through the fx loop when in bypass (it'll be a toggle switch).

This way you can put you Big Muff in the fx loop, which will put the filter sound after the fuzz (which sounds best) but use the original bass signal for controlling the envelope (which has more dynamics and will give you better control and more funkage). On the standard pedal though, if you put the Muff in the loop, you can only use the Muff in conjunction with the filter. The mod will let you use the muff by itself if you want and is well worth doing. Also make sure you get the expression pedal inputs!
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I'd say the first group

BMS not as useful as octave & dirt for me

with those three you can make a pho-synth...
A pho-synth? Is that a synth that comes with beef and noodle soup?
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A pho-synth? Is that a synth that comes with beef and noodle soup?
haha...i think he meant faux-synth.....i think
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Old 08-27-2008, 01:55 PM
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A pho-synth? Is that a synth that comes with beef and noodle soup?
I hear that you can widen the envelope on your pho-synth with a few liberal splashes of:
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well, heres a clip i did of the Qtron+ with my Blowtorch and a bass chorus in the loop (oh i use a delay after the setup at around the 7min mark)

http://soundclick.com/share?songid=6493362

warning: its a long clip (about 8mins?) with some horrendous playing (a prime butchering of hysteria)

the settings on the blowtorch and chorus stay the same, but i change everything on the qtron+ just so that you can get an idea of what the pedal can do.

i really likes the stuff i could get out of it, but to be honest, the BMS does more and costs less than the combined price of the Qtron+ and what you put in the fx loop (ie fuzz, octave modulation etc)

the micropog is cool and itsd polyphonic, but its not as fat-sounding as the oct up and down on the BMS in my opinion.
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