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08-26-2008, 05:50 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Raumati South, New Zealand | | | Meatwad, BBM & XO BMS or...
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Hey guys, I'm looking to get some new effects. I'll have a little under a grand for them so what I'm thinking about getting is either...
- A Robot Factory Meatwad, Micro POG and Bass Big Muff.
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- A Robot Factory Meatwad and XO Bass Micro Synth.
Which would be more versatile? What would you do?
Joe
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08-26-2008, 05:56 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Brooklyn | | | what kind of sounds are u looking for? the synth is , well - synth, different from bass muff. i, personally would go with the first choice, because you would get a wider range of sounds, having more pedals and having better pedals. ive heard good things about the synth, but im not a snyth kind of a guy, so im biased. the POG always seemed like a cool pedal, from watching video reviews i'd have to agree. | 
08-26-2008, 06:02 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Raumati South, New Zealand | | | The Meatwad on its own will be for more classic funk. I'd like to be able to get some synthy tones for some drum n bass stuff I'm doing and some big ambient break downs.
I guess I want to know if the combination of the first three pedals could create some good useable synth tones.
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08-26-2008, 06:04 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: San Diego, California | | | I'd say get the bass microsynth (which has its own octave up/down) over the micro POG, but try to get the BBM as well.
Is there any specific reason the Q-tron+ wouldn't satisfy you as much as the MeatWad, for instance? Over 300 is a lot to pay for your frst envelope filter; some folks would argue you should try the DOD fx25 before anything more expensive and they have a point.
Save on that effect and you'll have enough for envelope filter, microsynth and fuzz (the BBM is a great, versatile choice), maybe even something else! | 
08-26-2008, 06:05 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: San Diego, California | | Quote:
Originally Posted by bassbmx The Meatwad on its own will be for more classic funk. I'd like to be able to get some synthy tones for some drum n bass stuff I'm doing and some big ambient break downs.
I guess I want to know if the combination of the first three pedals could create some good useable synth tones. | not nearly as many as you could with the BMS. | 
08-26-2008, 06:16 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Raumati South, New Zealand | | | That's actually a really good idea. I can get a bit too carried away with wanting the best gear straight out of the gate.
A BMS and Qtron+ would be sweet and a few hundred NZ dollars cheaper than the other options.
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08-26-2008, 06:53 PM
|  | I'm a tumbler, born under punches | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Northern California | | | Some very cool pedals there but yeah, that's a chunk of change.
You're getting close to Octavius Squeezer prices at that point. Just saying. . .
If I wanted funky and synthy on a budget, I'd be looking at a Boss OC-2, a synthy fuzz (I personally hated the Blowtorch, but it might be up your alley - I'd go with a MI Neo or Chunk Brown Dog) and a versatile filter. The Q-Tron fits that bill more than an FX25 does.
Hope that helps. | 
08-26-2008, 07:09 PM
| | Not Actually Knighted... Yet! | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio | | | I'd say the first group
BMS not as useful as octave & dirt for me
with those three you can make a pho-synth...
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08-26-2008, 07:47 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Raumati South, New Zealand | | Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBigO Some very cool pedals there but yeah, that's a chunk of change.
You're getting close to Octavius Squeezer prices at that point. Just saying. . .
If I wanted funky and synthy on a budget, I'd be looking at a Boss OC-2, a synthy fuzz (I personally hated the Blowtorch, but it might be up your alley - I'd go with a MI Neo or Chunk Brown Dog) and a versatile filter. The Q-Tron fits that bill more than an FX25 does.
Hope that helps. | You're right but I'm getting tired of waiting. I should probably hold out a little longer for the OC 
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08-27-2008, 12:52 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London, England | | | I would go for option 1... Make sure you ask Mario to mod the pedal so that you can route through the fx loop when in bypass (it'll be a toggle switch).
This way you can put you Big Muff in the fx loop, which will put the filter sound after the fuzz (which sounds best) but use the original bass signal for controlling the envelope (which has more dynamics and will give you better control and more funkage). On the standard pedal though, if you put the Muff in the loop, you can only use the Muff in conjunction with the filter. The mod will let you use the muff by itself if you want and is well worth doing. Also make sure you get the expression pedal inputs! | 
08-27-2008, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Sir Edward V I'd say the first group
BMS not as useful as octave & dirt for me
with those three you can make a pho-synth... | A pho-synth? Is that a synth that comes with beef and noodle soup? | 
08-27-2008, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by RCCollins A pho-synth? Is that a synth that comes with beef and noodle soup? | haha...i think he meant faux-synth.....i think 
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08-27-2008, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by RCCollins A pho-synth? Is that a synth that comes with beef and noodle soup? | I hear that you can widen the envelope on your pho-synth with a few liberal splashes of:  | 
08-29-2008, 06:52 AM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: London, England | | well, heres a clip i did of the Qtron+ with my Blowtorch and a bass chorus in the loop (oh i use a delay after the setup at around the 7min mark) http://soundclick.com/share?songid=6493362
warning: its a long clip (about 8mins?) with some horrendous playing (a prime butchering of hysteria)
the settings on the blowtorch and chorus stay the same, but i change everything on the qtron+ just so that you can get an idea of what the pedal can do.
i really likes the stuff i could get out of it, but to be honest, the BMS does more and costs less than the combined price of the Qtron+ and what you put in the fx loop (ie fuzz, octave modulation etc)
the micropog is cool and itsd polyphonic, but its not as fat-sounding as the oct up and down on the BMS in my opinion.
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