Metal Core vs. Metal Zone vs. Heavy Metal

[Nyarlathotep]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV3O-xMFOY0

I know its a guitar demo, but around 2:15 interests me. Is this a re-issue of sorts of the HM?

Im wondering 2 things:

1) How does the ML-2 compare to the HM-2?

2) Is there any way to use the para mid on the MT-2 to remove the hi mid bite and make it sound really bassy and wide?

[Deluge Of Sound]

Keep in mind the last time I touched a metal zone was... seven(?) years ago?

I think you can dial out a lot of the harsh higher mids on it, but keep in mind, I last used one a long, long time ago (in a galaxy much like this one).

[Thunderscreech]

You can adjust the mids in and out quite a bit, and vary WHAT mids get cut out. Mids go From 200 to 5kHz. (So, mr. Tulip, you can still be "420 Certified with your 4.2 k Mids). But, of course, I haven't had much time to twiddle with the thing, and I'm alredy lusting for an HM-2 or an ML-2.

[tareh]

you left out one guy,

[Nyarlathotep]

Yay! Replies!

(yes, its been that kind of day...)

Originally Posted by Deluge Of Sound

Keep in mind the last time I touched a metal zone was... seven(?) years ago?

I think you can dial out a lot of the harsh higher mids on it, but keep in mind, I last used one a long, long time ago (in a galaxy much like this one).

Originally Posted by Thunderscreech

You can adjust the mids in and out quite a bit, and vary WHAT mids get cut out. Mids go From 200 to 5kHz. (So, mr. Tulip, you can still be "420 Certified with your 4.2 k Mids). But, of course, I haven't had much time to twiddle with the thing, and I'm alredy lusting for an HM-2 or an ML-2.

As to the above 2 posts:

As to Thunder: You don't know me that well, do you its 420 Hz not 4.2K. 4.2dB boost maybe, but not that high a freq anyways, you should twiddle with the MT some more and try to get the screechy bite out of it. Also, you should by an ML and compare. And post soundclips

Originally Posted by tareh

you left out one guy,

How many "metal" pedals has boss made??? and with orange knobs????

[Thunderscreech]

Originally Posted by DanielTulip

How many "metal" pedals has boss made??? and with orange knobs????

HM-2 Heavy Metal, HM-3 Hyper Metal, MZ-3 Digital Metalizer, MT-2 Metal Zone, ML-2 Metal Core.

[Nyarlathotep]

anyone tried to run em all in series?

[Thunderscreech]

Originally Posted by DanielTulip

As to Thunder: You don't know me that well, do you its 420 Hz not 4.2K. 4.2dB boost maybe, but not that high a freq anyways, you should twiddle with the MT some more and try to get the screechy bite out of it. Also, you should by an ML and compare. And post soundclips

It can do that, too. I got the two mixed up.

And an ML-2 might very well be next. The local store has one. I'll grab it when I take some effects by to offload, and take the jazz bass to trade.

[Nyarlathotep]

Thunder, I would LOVE a comparison of the ML to the MT

If you don't do it by January, some deity, somewhere, knows that I'll prolly pick one up (the ML that is, based on what I have heard of it). That and a set of bongos....

[Nyarlathotep]

bump for any other opinions or soundclips

[Thunderscreech]

jüst a Wårning: The ML-2 MËTÄL CÖRË mîght ße Øn it's way tomorrow, iƒ I have the fundage. And there will be ACTUAL SOUND CLIPZZZZZ!!!!!!!!11111

I'll borrow my friends XLR cable and adapter and go from Amp > soundcard.

[Thunderscreech]

Originally Posted by DanielTulip

anyone tried to run em all in series?

Youd get this: BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ and a lot of (unuseable) feedback.

Now, a lesson on the Boss Metal-(word) pedals:

The HM-2 and HM-3 are the same thing, just different names. Like the DD-2 and DD-3. The HM-3 also came out after the Metal Zone, and was thus eclipsed. The MZ-3 has a unique circuit that has analog distortion and digital chorus, and combines them in the various modes. It's also a stereo out pedal, rare in Distortionation. MT-2 you know, and ML-2 is a harder-core version of the HM-2, essentially.

And the MD-2 was rumored to be good on bass. I have never tried one. But you said it had artifacts in the tone, Mr.Tulip (what are artifacts, anyways?), and I trust your judgment. Also told to me to be goon on bass in the Boss Distortionation Arse-enal: BD-2 Bluedriver, PW-2 Powerdriver (with "Fat" and "Muscle" controls), Someone (a stoner in the Richmond, VA, area) told me the XT-2 Xtortion was supposedly good. I owned one for geetard, but never used it on bass. The OD-3 and OS-2 were told to me by another stoner kid in Richmond to "be really kickin' on bass".

The Metal Muff is okay. Not hard enough for me, but okay.

[Nyarlathotep]

The MD-2 was ok to a point. It really lost a lot of bass, and the bass controll just adds a lot of low mids. Which may be right for someone, but it most certainly is not βΘИΞКЯŲŜĦÏИĞ IMHO, at least not with this pedal. As for "artifacts", I call them that cus the pedal produces them, but they stand out from what the pedal sounds like most of the time. It's kindof like the sound of broken glass and wet runners on lino. Depending on the settings you get a real sqeak on your attack, and a real fizzy top end sound like broken glass, but not all the time.

Glad to hear I might not have to be the guinea pig for the ML

[Thunderscreech]

Originally Posted by DanielTulip

The MD-2 was ok to a point. It really lost a lot of bass, and the bass controll just adds a lot of low mids. Which may be right for someone, but it most certainly is not βΘИΞКЯŲŜĦÏИĞ IMHO, at least not with this pedal. As for "artifacts", I call them that cus the pedal produces them, but they stand out from what the pedal sounds like most of the time. It's kindof like the sound of broken glass and wet runners on lino. Depending on the settings you get a real sqeak on your attack, and a real fizzy top end sound like broken glass, but not all the time.

Glad to hear I might not have to be the guinea pig for the ML

I'm gonna go and see about it after breakfast!!! (breakfast at 1:33 PM, that is...)

[Nyarlathotep]

Any more news from Thunder?

How was the 1:33 PM breakfast?

My mind is burning with these questions

[tom once dead]

my friend/ guitarist has a metalcore, it doesnt have that much gain, and there is no mid adjustment.

however I have played with someone who was running a metal zone, and his tone was pure sex

[Thunderscreech]

Originally Posted by DanielTulip

Any more news from Thunder?

How was the 1:33 PM breakfast?

My mind is burning with these questions

In order to aquire a Metal Core, I need 50 dollars.

But, the good news is that i should have that (or be closer to having it) after Xmas.

And the 1:33 PM breakfast was good. Cream O' Wheat with Honey and Salt.

[Nyarlathotep]

Cream of Wheat is awesome

tom's post kinda makes me want to get a metal core... mid adjust doesn't matter much to me (I would just use the MT one to take out the squeek, if possible), and I have yet to run my EM with AXs. Still got the lower gain AYs.....

[Thunderscreech]

I showed the MT to my guitarist/drummer friend and he was impressed . I told him bass distortion was cool!

Also on my list of things to try: a Rat 2 with reutz (47k resistor-clipping mod), HM-2/3, and Digi Death Metal. Death Metal should be easy, as the little cousin has one that can be "re-appropriated" for testing purposes.

[Nyarlathotep]

I alsmost got a deth mets ages ago. I just wanted for the cool font.

OMG sharpies are NOT COOL