micro pog help

[phatbass30]

my current set up is:

sadowsky MS5 / warwick streamer stage 1 5 string thru samson wireless to Loop-master 3 loops with bypass/tuner out.

looper 1- micro pog and bass synth wah
looper 2- fulltone bassdrive mosfet
looper 3- boss bass chorus
looper out are mxr-80 and compulator (always on)

last night i used it on my gig. i noticed that whenever i turn on the m-pog with the bassdrive, i have a drop of low end. i'm trying to get a high octave with overdrive to sound like a bass and a guitar together, kinda help a bit my guitar player when he is soloing.


so it goes like this:

m-pog IN to loop 1 SEND
m-pog WET OUT to bass synth wah IN
bsw OUT to loop 1 RETURN

i actually didn't use the dry out of the m-pog. can anybody suggest me a set up to get a big sound with the overdrive/distortion, without the low end drop. does a blender would help? if yes, how am i gonna set it up with my looper?

thanks a lot!

[JanusZarate]

I'm not sure if you saw the post I made in the other thread you mentioned this in, but I think it could just be an issue of hearing perception when playing live. After all, that upper octave is going to significantly stand out in a mix, and you might simply not be used to it. Plus, as you turn up the volume, higher frequencies get louder with less power, and lower frequencies consume a lot of headroom... it could easily be that, too, and it's nothing a blender will fix. You just need to turn down the upper octave a bit when playing really loud, if this is the issue.

An easy way to test the Micro POG to make sure it's nothing else would be to turn up the Dry knob to unity gain, and turn the octaves down to zero. It should match your bypassed signal.

There isn't supposed to be a need for a blender, given the Micro POG's controls. There's no reason for low end "loss", either, other than physics.

[phatbass30]

Originally Posted by MysticBoo

I'm not sure if you saw the post I made in the other thread you mentioned this in, but I think it could just be an issue of hearing perception when playing live. After all, that upper octave is going to significantly stand out in a mix, and you might simply not be used to it. Plus, as you turn up the volume, higher frequencies get louder with less power, and lower frequencies consume a lot of headroom... it could easily be that, too, and it's nothing a blender will fix. You just need to turn down the upper octave a bit when playing really loud, if this is the issue.

maybe you're right, it's very new to me so maybe i just need to get use to the sound of it and get the right mix. thanks for the reply and advice, saves me money on the "blender"

[Paulitics]

The only reason I could see that you would want a blender is if you want your dry signal to be clean while the wet(octave up) is dirty. You would have to think through how it would work with your looper but basically you would turn up the octave up on the pog and turn the dry and sub octave knobs all the way down. You would then send the wet signal out of the pog into the overdrive. Then the output of the overdrive and the ouput from the dry jack of the pog could be blended with the blender.


Hope that wasn't too confusing. If you don't mind your whole signal being dirty then then there is no reason to attempt this.

[phatbass30]

Originally Posted by Paulitics

The only reason I could see that you would want a blender is if you want your dry signal to be clean while the wet(octave up) is dirty. You would have to think through how it would work with your looper but basically you would turn up the octave up on the pog and turn the dry and sub octave knobs all the way down. You would then send the wet signal out of the pog into the overdrive. Then the output of the overdrive and the ouput from the dry jack of the pog could be blended with the blender.


Hope that wasn't too confusing. If you don't mind your whole signal being dirty then then there is no reason to attempt this.

i saw your post...

"Ok so I am getting a micro pog. I will be using it mainly for its clean sounds but I would also like to use it for another purpose. I was hoping that by running only the octave up into a distortion pedal and mixing that with my clean bass signal that I could simulate/approximate having a guitar playing exactly what the bass is playing to help fill out some songs/parts of songs in my three piece indie rock band.

I will accomplish the mixing with a Boss LS-2 or a Barge VB2."

seems like what i wanted to happen. can u pls explain it to me slowly like i'm 7 yrs old boy, im really interested on doing this with ls-2. thanks