Micro POG MOD?

[ehque]

Anyone opened up their Micro POG and seen if the signals pass through the pots?

I was hoping to get a separate -1 and +1 signal out of it. Is that possible?

[TaySte_2000]

Doubt it due to it being digital it's all done by a little man inside the pedal with a computer

[andrewd]

Originally Posted by TaySte_2000

Doubt it due to it being digital it's all done by a little man inside the pedal with a computer

Is he running OSX or Vista?

[Toasted]

He's running EHX. Which is why you should be really worried.

[JanusZarate]

Originally Posted by Toasted

He's running EHX. Which is why you should be really worried.

EHX Nano and XO are much better than EHX 98.

Besides, those quirks you don't like aren't bugs... they're features.

[bongomania]

I vastly preferred the original POG from the '70s which used illegal immigrant day laborers to produce the octave effects.

[JanusZarate]

Originally Posted by bongomania

I vastly preferred the original POG from the '70s which used illegal immigrant day laborers to produce the octave effects.

But the effect stopped working during the winter. I'm not sure if it's related to the angle of the sun or to the harvest, but it always bugged me about that old POG.

[niftydog]

Originally Posted by bongomania

I vastly preferred the original POG from the '70s which used illegal immigrant day laborers to produce the octave effects.

Trouble was that at night they got drunk and had fights, which made it a really hard pedal to gig with.

[bongomania]

I always felt the drunken fights contributed to the rich, fat, analog character of its tone.

[Sir Edward V]

This thread is ridiculous... I like it.

[Pearl_jammin]

Haha, great thread, one stupid joke and the thread is well and truely derailed.

[niftydog]

It's not ridiculous until somebody says carrots.

[niftydog]

Carrots!

[andvari7]

Wait a minute, how would you know the signal passes through the pots? Are signals like water-cooled computers, where you can see the fluids?

[bongomania]

Originally Posted by Pearl_jammin

Haha, great thread, one stupid joke and the thread is well and truely derailed.

Sorry about that- I thought the OP was probably correctly answered in the first response, post #2. Since it's all handled inside a little computer chip, a +1/-1 output would be unlikely. Hence the freewheeling derail.

[JanusZarate]

Originally Posted by andvari7

Wait a minute, how would you know the signal passes through the pots? Are signals like water-cooled computers, where you can see the fluids?

Just a guess here, but you could probably patch in (assuming you know how to follow a PCB and trace the ground), and use a separate 1/4" jack to plug into. Current and voltage will unquestionably show up with a multimeter test, so that's useless for this case.

But does an audio signal even necessarily have to pass through the pot in a digital circuit? That's a question I don't know the answer to for certain.

DISCLAIMER: I'm an amateur when it comes to electronics. I'm not responsible for POG fireworks.

This is probably the second thread in a row where my lack of knowledge in digital circuitry is showing. I know enough to fix some of my gear, and barely enough to mod them.

[bongomania]

If the pots are "regular" analog pots then they regulate voltage in an analog part of the circuit, and if the signal passes through them it can be tested (listened to) using simple analog diagnostic tools. Audio signal is one of the types of voltage that may be regulated with a pot, but not every pot has audio running through it.

However if they are "rotary encoders" -digital pots- then they cannot be tested/listened to in that way. Even if the pots are not digital though, it is doubtful that +1 is passing by itself through one dedicated pot and -1 by itself through another. That would be the only circumstance in which the pots would even enter the picture.

[ehque]

Originally Posted by bongomania

If the pots are "regular" analog pots then they regulate voltage in an analog part of the circuit, and if the signal passes through them it can be tested (listened to) using simple analog diagnostic tools. Audio signal is one of the types of voltage that may be regulated with a pot, but not every pot has audio running through it.

However if they are "rotary encoders" -digital pots- then they cannot be tested/listened to in that way. Even if the pots are not digital though, it is doubtful that +1 is passing by itself through one dedicated pot and -1 by itself through another. That would be the only circumstance in which the pots would even enter the picture.

Wow this thread went south very quickly.

What are this "rotary encoders"? Could i replace a pot with a volume pedal and be assured it will work (i thought all pots were simply adjustable resistors. i have not heard of rotary encoders before)

[PhatBasstard]

I love my Micro POG, but I am really disappointed with the way they wired the outputs.
I would much rather had them the way other effects of this type are wired:
Main Out= mixed signal when used alone/ or dry only when used with...
Effect Out= effected signal only and silenced completely when pedal is off.

[ehque]

Originally Posted by PhatBasstard

I love my Micro POG, but I am really disappointed with the way they wired the outputs.
I would much rather had them the way other effects of this type are wired:
Main Out= mixed signal when used alone/ or dry only when used with...
Effect Out= effected signal only and silenced completely when pedal is off.

I've heard this complaint frequently. However, using the M-POG as it is in your context requires only a mute switch, whereas if you designed the M-POG, i'd have to use an A/B/Y pedal to work in my context (the way the M-POG was designed).

Since a mute switch is arguably cheaper and easier to put into a chain than a ABY pedal, i'm happy they designed it this way. And seriously, are you trying to jack my mod thread?