Is Micro POG volume drop for Dry normal?

dave88 · #1 12-28-2009, 08:06 PM

I just got one off eBay today so I'm trying to make sure that this is normal:

I have to turn the Dry to past 3 O'clock to get the same volume as when I disengage the effect. Normal??

Since I might be asked:
Just using Effect Out
Stock Fender '76 Jazz
Cords are Mogami and in great shape

CPplaysBASS · #2 12-28-2009, 09:07 PM

Don't want you to judge only on my experience, so hopefully some others chime in, but I don't notice any volume drops at any settings on my Micro POG and I use a passive Fender bass (either am MIA 08 Jazz or MIA 09 P-bass). I have it in a chain with pedals before and after it ... no problems.

Are you using the 9.6V / 200mA adaptor? I run mine off the Voodoo Labs PPI+ that has an output of only 9V, but that's not an issue since it delivers 250mA ... the Micro POG needs at least 200mA. I think using less would negatively affect all settings though ... just asking!

MikeXbass · #3 12-28-2009, 09:10 PM

i also own one and it says that FULL ON is unity gain...so u got a little more to go to get Unity..

Enjoy it..its great Pedal!

dave88 · #4 12-28-2009, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeXbass

i also own one and it says that FULL ON is unity gain...so u got a little more to go to get Unity..

Enjoy it..its great Pedal!

Thanks Mike! It's so odd to have a pedal that doesn't have "unity gain" (new term for me) at 12 o'clock.
And thanks for the advice also CP, I'm sure with low voltage or current it'd probably be quieter too. I'm using the EHX, BOSS-compatible adapter though.
-Dave

CPplaysBASS · #5 12-28-2009, 09:41 PM

All the controls are actually volume controls ... so my typical settings are dry @ 12 o'clock, sub octave @ 1 o'clock and up octave @ 2 o'clock.

I'll check mine again tomorrow morning to confirm, but I would think that if you have your sub and up controls set low or "off", then yes, you would have to have dry on "FULL" to not have a volume drop.

MikeXbass · #6 12-28-2009, 09:50 PM

yeah that would work to make a specific sound..but since i only use it a times...its not always on pedal..

so what im trying to achieve is an extension of my original bass tone with an added element.....that would unity gain (full on) and then adding amount of sub or high as desired for specific tone..

hope that helps..

CPplaysBASS · #7 12-29-2009, 11:49 AM

Mike already correctly answered this obviously, but just to confirm 100%, with both the "sub" and "up" off but the pedal on, "dry" has to be on full to not have any volume drop.

But again, as all three knobs are volume knobs to set to each user's needs/ tastes, different settings one each when combined will produce varying volume levels. On the settings I described in my last post, my overall volume increases slightly.

FYI, I have a chorus following my POG and I think it's an awesome combination ... takes away a lot of the "harshness" of the octave up sound!

dave88 · #8 12-29-2009, 11:55 AM

Chorus...hadn't thought about that. I have to use some effect with the octave up (usually distortion, sometimes auto-wah) since it sounds too much like a cheap Casio keyboard without it.

JimmyM · #9 12-29-2009, 02:00 PM

another thing that might help is if you run the upper octave too hot, it will cut down on the dry signal. i can't run my upper octave any more than about 3 o'clock before it starts cutting the dry signal. lower octave is no problem, though.

smo · #10 01-03-2010, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JimmyM

another thing that might help is if you run the upper octave too hot, it will cut down on the dry signal.

I haven't had an octaver that hasn't had this effect in some way.
And that includes some really cool analog octaver's too.

My MicroPOG also can't get the Lower octave UP to unity gain when solo'd.

dave88 · #11 01-03-2010, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by smo

I haven't had an octaver that hasn't had this effect in some way.
And that includes some really cool analog octaver's too.

I can't remember my regular POG doing anything noticeable with volume drops. Of course it is sitting next to me, I should plug it in.

Poor Tom · #12 01-03-2010, 10:22 AM

Well, I can chime in and say my POG2 has no volume drop issues at all. One thing you have to realize is that a soloed lower octave will inherently sound like it is at a lower volume, because it is at a much lower frequency. It's just the nature of sound.

megadan · #13 01-04-2010, 01:00 PM

I haven't had mine for more than a couple days now, but just fooling with it I found I needed dry up to about 3 o'clock for roughly unity gain. Good to know about the relative volumes, so far it's a pretty fun pedal.
I ran it through a feedback looper and got some waaaaaay out church organ sounds!