Moog Is Making A New Analog Delay

andvari7 · #1 06-12-2012, 08:29 PM

In this season's Sweetwater catalog, on page 91, there is a nice, big photo of a new Moog pedal. Its layout is the same as that of the beloved (by me) Moog MF-108 ClusterFlux, but delay. It's $700, according to page 90, which is out of my price range, for the moment. Additionally, Moog doesn't even have it listed on their website - they still have the placeholder page for the discontinued MF-104Z.

So, no information, except for the bits that Sweetwater gave me; a cost that is roughly the cost of rent for a decent place in Madison, and the footprint and power considerations of a Moog pedal. In other words: It's this, or a Strymon Brigadier. That simple.

Drop-D · #2 06-12-2012, 08:30 PM

I might be interested in a used one.

SoonerMatt · #3 06-12-2012, 09:06 PM

But why? Didn't they drop their old one because it wasn't selling at all?

pantherairsoft · #4 06-13-2012, 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoonerMatt

But why? Didn't they drop their old one because it wasn't selling at all?

I understand the old one was dropped as they chips used are rapidly running out (due to manufacturer no longer being in business) and rather than find an alternative that could make it sound/act like a different pedal, they decided to start working on an actual different pedal.

Same reason the Cluster Flux is a (semi) Limited run. They have X amount of chips to make X amount of pedals then they are stopping manufacture of them.

I expect X to a large number though!

I'm quite interested in the delay. It's one of the only Foogers' I don't own and the older versions offer some fantastic delay sounds that I have never been able to get quite the same from other units.

caeman · #5 06-13-2012, 10:17 AM

That seems a might too pricey considering the plethora of analog delay pedals on the market.

lem0nade · #6 06-13-2012, 11:32 AM

Moog seems like the Apple of the music world. 700 is just ludicrous.
Thats echoplex or space echo prices. Shame on Them.

BawanaRik · #7 06-13-2012, 11:42 AM

It is alot of money. And the clips I've heard do not justify spending.

That being said I do agree with the Apple of the effects world. The Phasor is a thing of beauty. Not only the way it sounds but the way it looks. And If I were to allowed one non fuzz pedal it would be the Moog Ring Mod.

The Moog delay is floating on the basis of the amount of that rare metal, Unobtainium in it. Re issued and avilable I have no doubt they will be cheaper.

That being said Moog's strong suite has always been filters. Spending this kind of dough on a Moog device I would be looking at the Murf.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lem0nade

Moog seems like the Apple of the music world. 700 is just ludicrous.
Thats echoplex or space echo prices. Shame on Them.

demon666 · #8 06-13-2012, 11:47 AM

There is a lot of external control in that box. I used to have a 104 and regret selling it. Is the price justified? Well it is if people buy it.

Laurent · #9 06-13-2012, 09:49 PM

I am new to Moog and after cycling though 100+ pedals I finally tried their phaser and I'm loving it. That pedal is just breathtaking. I tried the flanger/chorus in a store setting and was less impressed but the Phaser is just my thing right now. What a spectacular pedal.

Knettgummi · #10 06-22-2012, 03:10 PM

So, here it is, in case you haven't seen it yet. This clip gives a little more in-depth info on the new features of the 104M.

The LFO seems like an interesting addition, and delay time can be controlled by MIDI Note messages, so it should be possible to make the pedal self-oscillate and then tune the feedback via MIDI like the Cluster Flux. I imagine that can be pretty awesome when combined with some other cool effects in the feedback loop insert - I'd love to see a demo of that!

Still pretty steep at $700, if you just want a straight up delay pedal.

bongomania · #11 06-22-2012, 03:31 PM

If I was still doing vocals through effects, or live remixing of glitch tracks, I would probably drop the seven bones on it. For bass, even experimental trip-out bass, I don't quite see it.

andvari7 · #12 06-23-2012, 09:39 PM

It's too bad Moog hasn't put out a compressor. You and I would put out the BEST review of it on these here Internets.

Anyway, due to a trip to Florida in the next three weeks, and, most importantly, the fact that this pedal only does 800ms of delay, I will probably not be buying this pedal. Strymon, I guess this means you win.

caeman · #13 06-23-2012, 09:49 PM

But, it is 800ms of pure analog delay, longer than any other purely analog delay, right?

andvari7 · #14 06-23-2012, 10:15 PM

I'd have to confirm that, but if memory serves, Maxon used to make an analog delay that had 900ms, and Electro-Harmonix occasionally makes a Deluxe Memory Man w/Tap Tempo that does 1100ms. I think the BYOC Analog Delay can do something in that ballpark, but again, I really don't know.

I'm not a huge delay guy. I have my Carbon Copy, and that's been used sparingly. I'm content with it, and that should probably do for me. But, my effects history probably won't allow for that.

andvari7 · #15 07-07-2012, 06:55 PM

Well, two weeks later, I've come to a conclusion about this pedal: I don't want it. That may be the hardest thing for me or anybody to say on an effects pedal forum.

Tell me I'm making a smart decision. I want to get through this heat-and-bicycling-induced headache and exhaustion I'm experiencing with good news. Bonking out is a very dangerous experience, and it's been happening a lot lately. My season has been down. I'll try to ride through it this week.